Nevada Pronunciation, who cares?

[Hombre Secreto]

Pinche pendejo.

 

[XenoX101]

What about us Australians? Do we have to adopt your american accent or can we say the word the way its natural to us? How about all the other ethnicities that might not harbor your ideal american tongue? And most importantly, why don't people have better things to think about then who is pronouncing their state incorrectly? It's just as curious that the people complaining all happen to be those that are associated with the mispronounced state, I guess it only matters when it affects you right?

 

[Mixx]

Originally Posted by XenoX101

What about us Australians? Do we have to adopt your american accent or can we say the word the way its natural to us? How about all the other ethnicities that might not harbor your ideal american tongue? And most importantly, why don't people have better things to think about then who is pronouncing their state incorrectly? It's just as curious that the people complaining all happen to be those that are associated with the mispronounced state, I guess it only matters when it affects you right?
It is not an accent, it is the proper English pronunciation of our state for 150 years. An accent would be like some New Yorkers "choosing" to pronounce their state as "New Yawk". Nevadans are quite forgiving of foreigners mispronouncing the state, however, once corrected, I would hope you would adopt the correct pronunciation.

I'm guessing that you do not pronounce Illinois as Illi-noise. If not, why not? Isn't this the same? If I routinely pronounce Sydney, Australia as Side-Knee, is that cool or just stupid? If the eastern news media in Australia often pronounced Adelaide as Idol-ide, do you think that would bother you if you lived in the state of South Australia? How about listening to an Australia ABC National News anchor routinely saying Hobart as Hahh-bart? I don't think that would play well there either. There is no "ahh" sound in either Nevada or in Hobart.

 

[gladhands]

This is a sock right? It's gotta be a sock.

 

[XenoX101]

Originally Posted by Mixx

It is not an accent, it is the proper English pronunciation of our state for 150 years. An accent would be like some New Yorkers "choosing" to pronounce their state as "New Yawk".

Nevadans are quite forgiving of foreigners mispronouncing the state, however, once corrected, I would hope you would adopt the correct pronunciation.

I'm guessing that you do not pronounce Illinois as Illi-noise. If not, why not? Isn't this the same?

If I routinely pronounce Sydney, Australia as Side-Knee, is that cool or just stupid?

If the eastern news media in Australia often pronounced Adelaide as Idol-ide, do you think that would bother you if you lived in the state of South Australia? How about listening to an Australia ABC National News anchor routinely saying Hobart as Hahh-bart? I don't think that would play well there either.

There is no "ahh" sound in either Nevada or in Hobart.

Actually Americans almost always pronounce our cities and states incorrectly, but we simply find it amusing.

 

[Mixx]

Originally Posted by XenoX101

Actually Americans almost always pronounce our cities and states incorrectly, but we simply find it amusing.
If you read my full reply, I was not really talking about Americans mispronouncing Australian places. I specifically mentioned the corresponding equivalence of hypothetical Australian reactions to Australian national news media mispronunciations of Adelaide as Idol-Ide or Hobart as Hahh-bart. In Oregon and Nevada, we have, for a long time, been subjected to American Eastern news media sloppiness in pronouncing our western states. Would residents of Adelaide or Hobart be annoyed by Australian national newscasters repeatedly mispronouncing their capital cities or would those newscasters soon be looking for another line of work where they are more competent?

 

[XenoX101]

Originally Posted by Mixx

Actually, if you read my full reply, I was not really talking about Americans mispronouncing Australian places.

I specifically mentioned the corresponding equivalence of hypothetical Australian reactions to Australian national news media mispronunciations of Adelaide as Idol-Ide or Hobart as Hahh-bart.

In Oregon and Nevada, we have, for a long time, been subjected to American Eastern news media sloppiness in pronouncing our western states. Would residents of Adelaide or Hobart be annoyed by Australian national newscasters repeatedly mispronouncing their capital cities or would those newscasters soon be looking for another line of work where they are more competent?

There's a difference between remembering the pronounciation of 8 states and remembering the pronounciation of 50 states, and from my memory I do recall some slight variations on the pronounciations of some states with nobody to my knowledge taking issue to it, such as Bris-bane and Bris-ben for Brisbane.

 

[Mixx]

Originally Posted by XenoX101

There's a difference between remembering the pronounciation of 8 states and remembering the pronunciation of 50 states, and from my memory I do recall some slight variations on the pronunciations of some states with nobody to my knowledge taking issue to it, such as Bris-bane and Bris-ben for Brisbane.
Well, that is certainly true, 8 is easier than 50. However, I have no trouble at all knowing the correct English pronunciation of all 50 states. I doubt many folks in the other western states do either. Learning 50 pronunciations is not difficult at all. I assume you can correctly pronounce well over 50 nations and world cities and mostly likely well over 50 types of fruit, vegetables, and other food, 50 names of companies, etc. It is only our older eastern and southern American states that have let our regionally-biased Eastern national news media spread their own ignorance and bias, serving as counter-education for the masses. Believe me, any American national news media anchor who repeatedly pronounced Eastern states Illinois as Ill-noise and New Hampshire as New Hamp-shyre would eventually be fired or reassigned. Yet, mispronouncing western states Oregon and Nevada goes on all the time in our national news media without any apparent penalty.

 

[Hombre Secreto]

5*

 

[scarphe]

Originally Posted by Mixx

It is only our older eastern and southern American states that have let our regionally-biased Eastern national news media spread their own ignorance and bias, serving as counter-education for the masses.

Believe me, any American national news media anchor who repeatedly pronounced Eastern states Illinois as Ill-noise and New Hampshire as New Hamp-shyre would eventually be fired or reassigned. Yet, mispronouncing western states Oregon and Nevada goes on all the time in our national news media without any apparent penalty.

ok how does the fact that they pronounce the name of state somehow show a bias ignorance? similar to when you probabaly say bombay instead of Mumbai, you proabaly do not have a bias against People living in Maharashtra.
or does anyone that says bombay have bias against them?

 

[Mixx]

Originally Posted by scarphe

ok how does the fact that they pronounce the name of state somehow show a bias ignorance? similar to when you probabaly say bombay instead of Mumbai, you proabaly do not have a bias against People living in Maharashtra.
or does anyone that says bombay have bias against them?

The ignorance part should be obvious - they got it wrong. The eastern regional bias is in evidence when the national Eastern news media is careful to learn how to pronounce eastern states and cities, e.g., Illinois, New Hampshire, Des Moines, etc. and yet, in contrast, they are careless, sloppy, lazy, and/or indifferent about learning how to pronounce western states and cities.

Many in the Eastern national news media are quicker at learning how to pronounce Kazakhstan than learning about western states.

My personal belief is that mispronouncing Kazakhstan would make them feel uneducated among their peers. OTOH, mispronouncing Oregon and Nevada? Well, all their friends seem to do it too, so just as this thread's OP has declared: who cares?

Ignorance is bliss, n'est-ce pas?

 

[Mixx]

And for our friends in Oregon:

 

[scarphe]

Originally Posted by Mixx

The ignorance part should be obvious - they got it wrong. The eastern regional bias is in evidence when the national Eastern news media is careful to learn how to pronounce eastern states and cities, e.g., Illinois, New Hampshire, Des Moines, etc. and yet, in contrast, they are careless, sloppy, lazy, and/or indifferent about learning how to pronounce western states and cities. Many in the Eastern national news media are quicker at learning how to pronounce Kazakhstan than learning about western states. My personal belief is that mispronouncing Kazakhstan would make them feel uneducated among their peers. OTOH, mispronouncing Oregon and Nevada? Well, all their friends seem to do it too, so just as this thread's OP has declared: who cares? Ignorance is bliss, n'est-ce pas?
honestly who the **** cares. do you think some gu in myanmar cares that burma is still the common name for their country, probably not as they have more important things to do, as should the people from nevada or whaterve shithole us state you wish to mention.

 

[texas_jack]

Originally Posted by Hombre Secreto

None of those ******* idiots in Nevada pronounce it right, but they're entitled to pronounce it however they feel like it.

Yeah, that's my feeling. It's wrong but if you want to be wrong go for it.

 

[Mixx]

Originally Posted by texas_jack

Yeah, that's my feeling. It's wrong but if you want to be wrong go for it.
Nevadans are wrong about pronouncing our own state, eh? Another Dubya nukyular clone? I guess you'll have to change your username to: TAY-HOSS-YOCK (because, yes, Texas is a Spanish word there, cowboy)

Question: how does a Texan pronounce Redneckistan?