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Toe box is unstructured on that model, it's written in the last's description
Model description says reinforced toe puffs... that to me doesnt sound like unstructured. I mean they are super comfy, just a bit annoying. If i would have understood that reinforced toe puff means different thing than for every normal goodyear welted cap toe ive owned i probably would have gone for wingtip or plain toe.
 

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Model description says reinforced toe puffs... that to me doesnt sound like unstructured. I mean they are super comfy, just a bit annoying. If i would have understood that reinforced toe puff means different thing than for every normal goodyear welted cap toe ive owned i probably would have gone for wingtip or plain toe.
My bad, I just checked and indeed the description for this specific model isn't as clear as it is on other models builts on the Negon last where there is also the cross-section. For that last the toe puffs are made of leather and not celastic, that's why. Tbh I'd be bummed too if I had a collasping toe as well.
 

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My bad, I just checked and indeed the description for this specific model isn't as clear as it is on other models builts on the Negon last where there is also the cross-section. For that last the toe puffs are made of leather and not celastic, that's why. Tbh I'd be bummed too if I had a collasping toe as well.
More to the point that this company produces shoddy quality products. It makes me wonder what all the buzz was regarding Meermin a few years ago ? At one point, a few years ago did they produce & offer substantially better products than what many of us has experienced lately?
 

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More to the point that this company produces shoddy quality products. It makes me wonder what all the buzz was regarding Meermin a few years ago ? At one point, a few years ago did they produce & offer substantially better products than what many of us has experienced lately?
The buzz is that if I have to get glued together unknown if it's leather shoes for 150£ from shopping centre, meermins is a MASSIVE step up in quality. Even if you get subpar quality pairs. To be fair none of my meermins are perfect, but none are falling apart and all look massively better than high street shoes after some years of wear... And when upgrade to loake for 300£, quality doesn't double. Only thing that doubles or tripples is chances of getting a pair without QC issues.
 

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The buzz is that if I have to get glued together unknown if it's leather shoes for 150£ from shopping centre, meermins is a MASSIVE step up in quality. Even if you get subpar quality pairs. To be fair none of my meermins are perfect, but none are falling apart and all look massively better than high street shoes after some years of wear... And when upgrade to loake for 300£, quality doesn't double. Only thing that doubles or tripples is chances of getting a pair without QC issues.
In other words you’re okay with imperfect, subpar lesser quality because the price justifies the purchase & they age relatively well over time? Is this correct?
 

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In other words you’re okay with imperfect, subpar lesser quality because the price justifies the purchase & they age relatively well over time? Is this correct?
It's called law of diminishing returns.when price doubles but you get extra 10% quality, yes I'm happy. And 4-5 years later, meermin with their QC issues and likes without,look maybe 10% different. At this point Ive already learned what will bother me a year from now. That's a return. If a year later I won't care, I'm ok. 200£ shoes has different demands than 500-1000£ shoes.


Here collapsing toe puff will bother me, because for me collapsing toe puff associates with cheap high street brands, and I've never had goodyear welted captor collapse unless someone stepped on it.

but I already wore boots once so I shouldn't return them...
 
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I own five pairs of Meermins: a pair of cordovan jumper boots, pair of black calf jumper boots, two pairs of loafers, and a pair of Chelseas. I’ve had no issues with any of them except the Cordovan boots which initially had white specks on them which was resolved with bit of cordovan cream. They are now one of my favourite boots. I also previously owned a pair of burgandy wholecuts, which I sold as I decided I didn’t like the colour. Also had no issues with that pair. For the price they are unbeatable, even more so when on sale.
 

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It's called law of diminishing returns.when price doubles but you get extra 10% quality, yes I'm happy. And 4-5 years later, meermin with their QC issues and likes without,look maybe 10% different. At this point Ive already learned what will bother me a year from now. That's a return. If a year later I won't care, I'm ok. 200£ shoes has different demands than 500-1000£ shoes.


Here collapsing toe puff will bother me, because for me collapsing toe puff associates with cheap high street brands, and I've never had goodyear welted captor collapse unless someone stepped on it.

but I already wore boots once so I shouldn't return them...
Understood, makes sense. How we subjectively evaluate value.
 

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It's called law of diminishing returns.when price doubles but you get extra 10% quality, yes I'm happy. And 4-5 years later, meermin with their QC issues and likes without,look maybe 10% different. At this point Ive already learned what will bother me a year from now. That's a return. If a year later I won't care, I'm ok. 200£ shoes has different demands than 500-1000£ shoes.


Here collapsing toe puff will bother me, because for me collapsing toe puff associates with cheap high street brands, and I've never had goodyear welted captor collapse unless someone stepped on it.

but I already wore boots once so I shouldn't return them...

I think this captures it. Lots of us (me included) like to grumble about QC. Lots of us (me included) are also loyal customers for the reasons you state here.

Most of us are more fussy than the average consumer, and we are... A quirky bunch. What bothers me might not bother you and vice versa.

There is a reason Meermin has one of the most active threads on here. And most of it is just folks showing off some damn fine shoes.
 

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I own several Meermin boots in Cordovan, and 2-3 in leather, they are decent for the price, you get what you pay for. All of mine had no issues.
There are examples of Meermin products that should never had been shipped to the customer, that’s the unacceptable issue.
 

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I think this captures it. Lots of us (me included) like to grumble about QC. Lots of us (me included) are also loyal customers for the reasons you state here.

Most of us are more fussy than the average consumer, and we are... A quirky bunch. What bothers me might not bother you and vice versa.

There is a reason Meermin has one of the most active threads on here. And most of it is just folks showing off some damn fine shoes.
Correct.
 

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I own several Meermin boots in Cordovan, and 2-3 in leather, they are decent for the price, you get what you pay for. All of mine had no issues.
There are examples of Meermin products that should never had been shipped to the customer, that’s the unacceptable issue.
I agree and what that means to me is that it doesn’t speak well for the company.
 

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So. Have been some years since I've bought meermin. Couldn't resist a punt on a cordovan but since normal cordovan was out of stock, went for a vaxy one. Great that size was right! Took same size as Hiro and if Hiro was almost too tight, this is almost too big but still great!

Honestly? Now I have 2 "seconds" meermin and 2 full price. Honestly seconds are much better quality control.
Leather is... Weird. Imperfect but I kind of expected that. Very very vaxy, easy to scratch, after 15min wear no signs of creasing but a hint of rolls?

However quality control?

Thongue on reverse Is cracked and I have a feeling toe stiffeners is non existent. Emailed meermin and "everything is within tolerances". Creasing allover toe puffs apparently Is normal(even Infront of my thumbs?)

I mean for a beat up boot I do love it. But as anything with a hint of dressy it would be instant return.

*Pictures are after 15min wear.


Meermins customer service came trough and made me happy. Thanks to another poster that pointed out mistake in description, because other boots does say soft leather toe puff, but this one says reinforced toe puff. I'll get extra discount due to website mistake, they still confirmed that those "cracks" is veins, normal and nothing to worry about, however we seem to have agreed that if within 2 years (I have 5 pairs of boots so they have little wear) thongue will need fixing, they will take care about me but I will return the extra discount I'll get.
 

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It's called law of diminishing returns.when price doubles but you get extra 10% quality, yes I'm happy. And 4-5 years later, meermin with their QC issues and likes without,look maybe 10% different. At this point Ive already learned what will bother me a year from now. That's a return. If a year later I won't care, I'm ok. 200£ shoes has different demands than 500-1000£ shoes.


Here collapsing toe puff will bother me, because for me collapsing toe puff associates with cheap high street brands, and I've never had goodyear welted captor collapse unless someone stepped on it.

but I already wore boots once so I shouldn't return them...
I cannot agree anymore. Mehrman is decent quality for the price, especially if you buy them on sale or second quality. They are not $500 for $200 shoe. There ladders, construction, designs and soles are quite decent. I have had a few of them for almost a decade and they have aged and worn well. As long as the structural integrity is maintained, most shoes look the same after a few wears. However, if someone wants to pay $500 for repair which looks impeccable on day 1, that fine. To each their own.
 

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I cannot agree anymore. Mehrman is decent quality for the price, especially if you buy them on sale or second quality. They are not $500 for $200 shoe. There ladders, construction, designs and soles are quite decent. I have had a few of them for almost a decade and they have aged and worn well. As long as the structural integrity is maintained, most shoes look the same after a few wears. However, if someone wants to pay $500 for repair which looks impeccable on day 1, that fine. To each their own.
To each their own is correct, subjectivity. Have you heard of BLKBRD or CNES brands? Recently I spent most of an afternoon at the CNES showroom in Singapore. This was to examine their products firsthand. The basic entry line isn’t more or much more expensive the Meermin. However, the quality and workmanship far surpasses that of Meermin.
Each of us is free to spend our money as we wish to, that’s a fact.
 

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