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This is a WiP I got from Pepe for the Museum Calf Mk. II order, re; dying leather or not.

Brown looks great, look forward to them adding it to the regular line up, but I don't recall seeing this MTO in recent times, how long have you been waiting for this one?
 

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In my latest Meermin adventure, the nails come through the insole...

I found that a bit odd as I've never seen it before, especially in both shoes. Anyone else find this in theirs? I will likely just get a cheap thin leather insole to cover.


Sounds like a defective. Might start drilling a hole through your foot (happened to me once on a non meermin shoe).
 

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This is a WiP I got from Pepe for the Museum Calf Mk. II order, re; dying leather or not.

Museum Calf is pre-finished at the tannery for sure. So don't worry about this case.

But even with regular leather its probably okay to finsh after. Since the pores are open enough to accept dye.

But with shell cordovan I have a feeling the color would have a hard time sticking (because of small pores). BUT I am not convinced that this is happening since when I asked Meermin if they could source a medium green shell (instead of leaf green) they said they could not.

If they were 100% dying after the fact they could have altered the color for me and sold it to me.
So I am not sure what the truth is yet there is conflicting evidence.
 
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Brown looks great, look forward to them adding it to the regular line up, but I don't recall seeing this MTO in recent times, how long have you been waiting for this one?

Hey bro - these came through mid last year. I've only actually worn them a dozen times - but they've broken in well!

Museum Calf is pre-finished at the tannery for sure. So don't worry about this case.

But even with regular leather its probably okay to finsh after. Since the pores are open enough to accept dye.

But with shell cordovan I have a feeling the color would have a hard time sticking (because of small pores). BUT I am not convinced that this is happening since when I asked Meermin if they could source a medium green shell (instead of leaf green) they said they could not.

If they were 100% dying after the fact they could have altered the color for me and sold it to me.
So I am not sure what the truth is yet there is conflicting evidence.

Keep us all posted - I wouldn't mind getting some undyed pairs and having them finished by dandy shoe care.
 

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Hi guys, I wonder if I am suitable for meermin lasts like olfe, hiro & park if I am in Carmina rain, forest and avoid Simpson & uetem...

Thanks a lot
 

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Museum Calf is pre-finished at the tannery for sure. So don't worry about this case.

But even with regular leather its probably okay to finsh after. Since the pores are open enough to accept dye.

But with shell cordovan I have a feeling the color would have a hard time sticking (because of small pores). BUT I am not convinced that this is happening since when I asked Meermin if they could source a medium green shell (instead of leaf green) they said they could not.

If they were 100% dying after the fact they could have altered the color for me and sold it to me.
So I am not sure what the truth is yet there is conflicting evidence.


I really don't think so (i.e. they don't normally dye the leather in house, it's dyed at the tannery). That is probably just crust calf that comes untanned, and you can apply whatever patination you want. Like SL does for example.
 
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shell cordovan....I am not sure what the truth is yet there is conflicting evidence.

Shells are normally dyed by the tannery, especially as they're harder to dye. I don't know anything about Meermin's Argentinian tannery, but I'd also assumed they supply everything ready-dyed.

However, if you did want a custom dye job on shell, then Septieme Largeur sell some of their models in tanned but un-dyed shell, to which they can apply a "patina" i.e. paint it with dye. They are also happy to ship the shoes in the raw for you or someone else to do it if you wish e.g. Alexander Nurulaeff as mentioned above. I don't know how much more difficult it is that their similar arrangements with crust, but they offer it, so it must be possible. Here you go.
 

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I really don't think so (i.e. they don't normally dye the leather in house, it's dyed at the tannery). That is probably just crust calf that comes untanned, and you can apply whatever patination you want. Like SL does for example.
I would think so too but they posted this video which is Shell Cordovan and it is being pigmented in some way.


I wouldn't mind getting some undyed pairs and having them finished by dandy shoe care.
You can always MTO unfinished/undyed shoes and patina them yourself of one of those fancy places.
Hell since its one step less for them I wonder if they would do it on stock models.


Shells are normally dyed by the tannery, especially as they're harder to dye. I don't know anything about Meermin's Argentinian tannery, but I'd also assumed they supply everything ready-dyed.
Thats what i expected but that video kinda broke that expectations since they looked like the were painting the shell inhouse.

It could have been a special order or something.

Thanks for the links to Septieme Largeur
 
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Sorry I didn't realise the pic you showed was from Meermin: well that's another explanation for the reasonable pricing of the shell, perhaps: it's not going to take as long to prepare as Horween's does, if it doesn't get the dye treatments after the initial tanning.
 

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Sorry I didn't realise the pic you showed was from Meermin: well that's another explanation for the reasonable pricing of the shell, perhaps: it's not going to take as long to prepare as Horween's does, if it doesn't get the dye treatments after the initial tanning.

Yea. I truthfully care more about the structural integrety that the shell cordovan gives. If I can re-color it evey so often so its not a big deal to me.

But it would be nice to know what is the "right" recolorer. (I am assuming saphir cordovan cream is probably as good as it gets.)
 

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Can someone shed some light on this issue as well?

I currently own a pair of 8UK country calf DM (Hiro). Thinking of getting a pair of black oxford in Hiro last. if what you say is true in general then i'll have to go up half size... (the 8UK monks are very snug for me)

Thanks darthng for the heads up!
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I have both the Hiro in DM and Oxfords; the DM is snug and the Oxfords are even worse.

With regards to the Park last, if you have a high instep, I will advise you to forget about it. Choose the same size as your Olfe if your going for the Park last though if you have slightly wide feet, your small toe may feel uncomfortable.
 

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I have both the Hiro in DM and Oxfords; the DM is snug and the Oxfords are even worse. 

With regards to the Park last, if you have a high instep, I will advise you to forget about it. Choose the same size as your Olfe if your going for the Park last though if you have slightly wide feet, your small toe may feel uncomfortable.


Thanks! I'll go up half size then...
Any idea as to why the same last would lead to different sizing though?
Another question I'd like to ask is whether this issue arises for the olfe last too? I.e uk8 in olfe double monks = 8.5 olfe oxford?
 

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Yea. I truthfully care more about the structural integrety that the shell cordovan gives. If I can re-color it evey so often so its not a big deal to me.

But it would be nice to know what is the "right" recolorer. (I am assuming saphir cordovan cream is probably as good as it gets.)

By the look of it they paint it with dye. That would be hard to re-do. But adding layers of cream and polish would certainly change the effect, although on cordovan, the general advice is that less is more. I'm not sure you want to try to change the look of a cordovan shoe too much.
 

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