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Further Changes at Edward Green ...

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by sysdoc, Mar 28, 2006.

  1. sysdoc

    sysdoc Well-Known Member

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    As of late I've started to wonder about EG. We all know about the departure of Tony Gaziano and therefore EG's loss of its, certainly at least prestigeous, bespoke business. We have learned that after more than 15 years, EG left its store in London's spiffy Burlington Arcade to move to a new location in Jermyn Street only a week ago. EG has recently (supposedly been forced to) raise prices at least in the US and Canada, making the shoes somewhat harder to sell. Now another disturbing news has reached me yesterday. Susie Jones, the lovely and so knowledgeable lady in charge of Edward Green's world wide sales, who many of us know from numerous trunk shows or the sales times at Burlington Arcade, has told me that she is leaving EG by the end of this week. I just got off the phone with her. She was energetic as ever, supposedly torn half between positive anticipation of her new job at Crockett & Jones and sadness for leaving so many lovely people at Edward Green. Susie worked at Edward Green for twelve years. She joined EG together with the late John Hlustik, who's been so important for the success of this old and traditional company. Well, what can I say? Here's to you, Susie Jones! You will be missed not just by me, but by many a member of Style Forum and Ask Andy! Edward Green won't be the same without you! I wish you the best of success in your new position at C&J and I hope I'll see you there very soon!
     
  2. medwards

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    I undrstand that Susie will be at a new Crockett & Jones store in Birmingham.
     
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    I undrstand that Susie will be at a new Crockett & Jones store in Birmingham.
    Sadly, I don't suppose you mean Alabama. [​IMG]
     
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    I undrstand that Susie will be at a new Crockett & Jones store in Birmingham.
    That's what she told me. It used to be a shoe store that, amongst other brands, also sold EGs, but it was recently purchased by Crockett & Jones. It's currently being refurbished and will open as official C&J outlet sometime past Easter. Susie will be its manager(ess). And, yes, it's Birmingham/UK, the capitol of the English Midlands and worst traffic nightmare north of London.
     
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    Carlisle ... hang the blessed RJ ...
     
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    Too bad about Susie's departure. Who's going to give Duveen a hard time about looking and not buying at the trunk show now? [​IMG]
     
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    Too bad about Susie's departure. Who's going to give Duveen a hard time about looking and not buying at the trunk show now? [​IMG]

    Hilary Freeman's quite capable of that..but if she doesn't I know we can count on you, scnupe7, kabert, virginia dandy, carson35, modsquad and a host of others to keep Duveen on his toes (and perhaps a new pair of EGs on his feet).[​IMG]
     
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    Too bad about Susie's departure. Who's going to give Duveen a hard time about looking and not buying at the trunk show now? [​IMG]

    I was just thinking the same thing - off the hook!
     
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    Sounds like management problems at EG...maybe it was secretly bought out by the Russians.
     
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    I was just thinking the same thing - off the hook!


    In your dreams!![​IMG]
     
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    Well there's panic on the streets of Carlyle,
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    Call me morbid call me pale, I've spent six years on your trail....
     
  15. kabert

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    Seriously -- what an unfortunate turn of events. The price increase by EG also makes Grenson and C&J more appealing I guess. I wonder how much C&J and Grenson (and Sargent, for that matter) are assisted financially by their relationships with Ralph Lauren, Brooks, Ben Silver, Plal, etc. I guess EG sells through RL also, and also through Saks and a few other stores (like Malouf's, Sky, Jay Kos, and Flusser), but I imagine the volume is much lower than C&J. Plus, C&J has lower-end lines as well.
     
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    itsstillmatt Well-Known Member

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    I really wouldn't worry about all of the changes. Green is hardly an artisanal company that relies on individual skill for their products. I think that most machine made lines of clothing and shoes can handle all sorts of departures from their ranks and not really miss a beat. It is not as though a company like Vass is losing one of their best shoemakers. There are many shoemakers of equal and higher quality than Green, and they lose employees every day.

    The bespoke thing is only a big deal as far as recent history. Green is not, and has never been, a company known for its bespoke shoemaking, no matter how nice it is.
     
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    The bespoke thing is only a big deal as far as recent history. Green is not, and has never been, a company known for its bespoke shoemaking, no matter how nice it is.

    Hear, hear! I mentioned this in the other thread - EG did not make its name with bespoke (unlike Lobb, where RTW followed a bespoke operation), and did not offer it at all until comparatively recently.

    Also agree that Susie, while wonderful, is not likely to be the lynchpin of the whole organization. I can see why moving to C&J would make sense for her - they have more shops, which means that one can more quickly move into management. The problem with companies like EG is that upward mobility is limited by company size and number of outlets - there is only so much higher-paid, higher-status work to be done, and a lot of it can be carried by a capable chief executive like Hilary, who likely wears many hats.
     
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    I had heard this, too, but was asked not to say anything until it was officially public. Apparently she's leaving because she doesn't want to travel as much.

    --Andre
     
  19. aportnoy

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    To add to the mystery...

    I was just informed that Edward Green will no longer be accepting orders for shoes in birch or maple unless they are a contrast color for a spectator. I suppose that birch and maple are not big enough sellers and that they require too many "one-offs" to be financially viable hides for EG to offer.

    It seems as though they are pulling back on their operations to a certain degree, which is not uncommon, but still noteworthy.
     
  20. itsstillmatt

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    To add to the mystery...

    I was just informed that Edward Green will no longer be accepting orders for shoes in birch or maple unless they are a contrast color for a spectator. I suppose that birch and maple are not big enough sellers and that they require too many "one-offs" to be financially viable hides for EG to offer.

    It seems as though they are pulling back on their operations to a certain degree, which is not uncommon, but still noteworthy.



    Glad that I got mine. Did your order make it through, or was it retroactively dinged?
     

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