Coxsackie
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I'm enjoying the to-and-fro here. High quality, considered debate. I tend to be more on Matt's side, but actually the two of you are not that far apart (although you seem to think you are contradicting each other).
Both of you appear to recognise the truth of the Sapir-Worf (sp?) Hypothesis - which of course is the underpinning of Orwell's concept of Newspeak - but you are twisting it around in different ways.
What neither of you have addressed - perhaps because it's so obvious - is that public speech is quite a different animal from private conversation. Both Eddie Maguire and Steve Price were on public free-to-air television - and presumably being paid to appear there - when they made the comments to which others have objected.
The standard to which public speech should be held is much higher than that of private conversation. Price seems to think this is not so, as he appears to be defending his "mate" on the basis that the offending comments were just idle locker-room banter. They were most certainly not. Both Maguire and Price are seasoned celebrities with several decades of experience, which makes their recent outbursts all the more reprehensible.
Both of you appear to recognise the truth of the Sapir-Worf (sp?) Hypothesis - which of course is the underpinning of Orwell's concept of Newspeak - but you are twisting it around in different ways.
What neither of you have addressed - perhaps because it's so obvious - is that public speech is quite a different animal from private conversation. Both Eddie Maguire and Steve Price were on public free-to-air television - and presumably being paid to appear there - when they made the comments to which others have objected.
The standard to which public speech should be held is much higher than that of private conversation. Price seems to think this is not so, as he appears to be defending his "mate" on the basis that the offending comments were just idle locker-room banter. They were most certainly not. Both Maguire and Price are seasoned celebrities with several decades of experience, which makes their recent outbursts all the more reprehensible.