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If a system has a single good game on it, it was worth the release. The hardware doesn't matter, the games do.


I get that point of view, but what's wrong with wanting the most powerful hardware that can run expansive graphically intensive worlds with advanced AI? Hardware advancements do matter. Otherwise we might as well keep playing our PS3's or Xbox 360's forever.
 
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Fantastic recap of what a **** show MS' XBONE conference was.



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I get that point of view, but what's wrong with wanting the most powerful hardware that can run expansive graphically intensive worlds with advanced AI? Hardware advancements do matter. Otherwise we might as well keep playing our PS3's or Xbox 360's forever.


Absolutely nothing wrong, of course. But a good game matters more. My top three games last year were Hotline Miami, The Walking Dead and Spec Ops: The Line. The first could be run on my netbook, the second on an iPad, the third, only a console or PC. It doesn't make a difference.

I buy all the consoles and portables because if there's a game with an interesting idea or mechanic, it's worth playing.
 
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Spec ops was a turd :stirpot: props to them for making a story-driven game which is a rarity these days.
 

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From a pure specs standpoint, they certainly are not. The advantage for consoles has always been the tight development environment based on fixed hardware that doesn't change. Over time they squeeze far more life out of console hardware then is possible with the moving target that is PC development. You can expect the PS4 and XBONE to hold up well over the years even has their hardware becomes more and more dated.

Both PC and consoles have their advantages and disadvantages. I'm just glad to finally see some new consoles hit. Been ready for a while.
 

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They are being vague about the specs because they know Sony has the upper hand this time. The PS4 will have a beefier GPU and a large increase in RAM speed/bandwidth. It's also been confirmed that the "three OS" strategy that MS has implemented has a large cost in system RAM. Three gigs are being reserved for these operating systems to run, leaving only five gigs left for gaming. Now, we don't have confirmation on how memory intensive the PS4's OS will be but it's rumored to be closer to one gig.

I saved this quote from another forum, but it does a pretty good job of explaining how this went down.

Unlike the previous generation, both consoles are based on the same core architecture. So it's not unreasonable to believe that the spec advantage of the PS4 will lead to fairly easy gains in multi-platform and exclusive games.

Coupled with the fact that Sony's messaging from day one has been "gamers first," they have a real chance of winning back a lot of the ground in the USA they lost last generation.

In regards to DRM, we know that Sony is taking note of the public's reaction to what MS is doing. If this is a big enough issue for you, then let them know how you feel. http://www.destructoid.com/gamers-make-it-clear-to-sony-they-want-a-drm-free-ps4-254624.phtml


Yeah, the PS3 ports were bad because most devs porting games didn't bother to figure it out. I don't really think we'll see any PS4 exclusive improvements with multi-plat titles only because I see then just going after the low hanging fruit, developing to XBone specs and just doing a barebones port. I'm more annoyed at MS asking consumers to stay tuned for more information on thinks like power states, used games, online connectivity, kinect requirements, etc. It's like they announced the console...but they didn't.


If a system has a single good game on it, it was worth the release. The hardware doesn't matter, the games do.


They said they have 15 exclusives lined up. 8(7?) of them are new IPs. One already shown was the Remedy game. That means 6~7 new ones, but you have to wonder how many are kinect focused games. I don't really see then having many, if any, exclusives that will make me want the XBone at the moment, especially considering all the baggage that comes with it.

Tried out the Metro Light game that came w/ my GTX 660....pretty nice game actually. I wasn't expecting much but it kept my attention for a while.

Oh and this:

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Xbox-One-PlayStation-4-IGNITE-Frostbite-Rajat-Taneja,22756.html

EA: PS4, XBox One Are a 'Generation Ahead' of Gaming PCs


LOL WUT


From a pure specs standpoint, they certainly are not. The advantage for consoles has always been the tight development environment based on fixed hardware that doesn't change. Over time they squeeze far more life out of console hardware then is possible with the moving target that is PC development. You can expect the PS4 and XBONE to hold up well over the years even has their hardware becomes more and more dated.

Both PC and consoles have their advantages and disadvantages. I'm just glad to finally see some new consoles hit. Been ready for a while.


Yeah, I imagine that he's talking about the overall architectural elegance of the systems, not that they're actually a generation ahead. No console is going to stand up to an overclocked i7, SLI'd Titans and an SSD, but obviously things like HSA, unified memory, dedicated audio have a leg up over PCs.
 

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Cannot wait to get it
 

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Polygon gave it a 7.5. :stirpot:
 
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