"Vegetarian" Business/Formal Shoe Options

[chasingred]

Originally Posted by entrero

Which pretty much defines hypocrisy.
Right. Because morality is a rigid, one-dimensional, absolutist system.

 

[ecenur]

Originally Posted by Twotone

Crocs is coming out with a new line of dress shoes for the holidays.

Are you serious! That's great! I just started working at a makeup factory, I am running around the whole day or standing on my feet for long hours. I am looking for comfy shoes, I really like the comfort of crocs their amazing, they do wonders for your feet but I really dislike the way they look but, if their coming out with dress shoes or any other type of shoes that don't look like the original crocs, I am definitely buying those. I wonder how much they'll cost.

 

[Matt S]

Originally Posted by brandonbrandon

Generally I find most vegan footwear to look clunky and contrived. I recently was recommended to this site by a client at work and the problem was immediately solved. I haven't found any company who has been on par with the asthetic and craftsmanship of these yet.

http://www.noharm.co.uk/

What are these shoes made from? I e-mailed them but they would only tell me that the material is man-made and it is vegan approved. But that tells me nothing about the performance or feel of the material.

 

[pebblegrain]

Stop lying to yourselves. Wear cloth shoes

 

[landshark]

The animals that produce leather are going to die anyways. If anything, we would be wasting their hides, and cheapening their deaths by not using them.

 

[entrero]

Originally Posted by Matt S

What are these shoes made from? I e-mailed them but they would only tell me that the material is man-made and it is vegan approved. But that tells me nothing about the performance or feel of the material.

Who cares. It's vegan approved.

 

[indesertum]

Originally Posted by chasingred

Not necessarily true, but I'm not a leather maker. Someone in the trade should comment.

I do know that finer wools are made by putting stress on the animal.

http://www.american.com/archive/2007...er-super-wool/

The idea that better treated animals result in better products is kind of overly simple.

woah. manton wrote that

 

[nioh]

 

[Made in California]

Originally Posted by AlmostFullBenefits

I don't know if you want to thank me, but if you really want a non-animal leather substitute in a bespoke shoe and have lots of money to spend, then there is: human leather. Yes, that's right. Human leather. It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose again. While I'm guessing this group usually caters to exorbitantly wealthy people with macabre fetishes, it does put the human in humane leather. If nothing else, it is an morbidly intriguing idea.
It's too bad this isn't a real site because I am now REALLY interested to see what a wallet made out of human skin would look like.

Originally Posted by entrero

Translation: I'm a girl.
Lol, +10

Originally Posted by ecenur

Are you serious! That's great! I just started working at a makeup factory, I am running around the whole day or standing on my feet for long hours. I am looking for comfy shoes, I really like the comfort of crocs their amazing, they do wonders for your feet but I really dislike the way they look but, if their coming out with dress shoes or any other type of shoes that don't look like the original crocs, I am definitely buying those. I wonder how much they'll cost.
Oh trust me, they'll be ugly.

 

[whitworth]

Originally Posted by chasingred

Not necessarily true, but I'm not a leather maker. Someone in the trade should comment.

I do know that finer wools are made by putting stress on the animal.

http://www.american.com/archive/2007...er-super-wool/

The idea that better treated animals result in better products is kind of overly simple.

I don't know about the rest of the world but here in Australia we produce some of the finest wool on earth and the sheep that produce the low micron wool live pretty contented lives. Eat, ****,drink, root, eat, ****, drink, and more rooting.

The fineness of the wool is down to genetics and good environment.

 

[Will C.]

Shoes... the absolute most important reason to not be a vegetarian...

 

[DWFII]

Originally Posted by ineffable

I agree with all the comments about synthetics being very bad for the environment, doing what you can where you can, and buying used shoes that will last. I feel like an ass for leaving the ecologically responsible bit out of my OP, but I felt it was getting a bit long and decided to leave that out. It is a large concern for me, however I felt that once you have a material you can find a source for it that is ecologically friendly (as much so as plastics or synthetic materials can be - and probably as much so as the typical leather products given the chemicals used for their treatment/tanning and lack of biodegradability). I guess I will just continue on with looking for the right waxed canvas shoe. Does any one have ideas on shoemakers that (would) work with waxed canvas?
Simply misinformed. All leather is biodegradable. And a good proportion of the leather used in contemporary shoes is vegetable tanned...meaning that the chemicals used for tanning are vegetable extracts. Plastics...and waxes....are derivative of the petro-chemical industry. Save a fox, destroy a forest. Do what you feel is best but do it from understanding and not willful ignorance.

 

[ktrp]

Originally Posted by chasingred

I'm confused by this "shell cordovans are a by-product," and therefore ethical for vegans, idea.

The producers who raise horses for food are still profiting off of the skins, which they factor into their production plans. If they weren't able to sell the skins, presumably the prices on the meat would have to go up, which in turn means consumers would face higher prices, and respond by buying less horse meat. Thus, in the end, fewer horses would be slaughtered.

If the skins are just donated, then that's a different story. The story there, then, would be about not only the ethics of wearing shell cordovans, but how we can all get into the best business in the world.

I don't know anything about the skin industry, but I wanted to note that meat prices may not be particularly impacted by profit off the skins.

If the way the animals are raised, treated, slaughtered etc. is more costly if you are hoping to use the skin, then the price of the skin may be based on the incremental cost and may not be subsidizing the cost of the meat.

The impact on how the animal is treated is an interesting one. It was noted above that mistreating animals can obviously blemish the hide, which is undesirable if you are hoping to maximize its price.

 

[AlmostFullBenefits]

Originally Posted by Made in California

It's too bad this isn't a real site because I am now REALLY interested to see what a wallet made out of human skin would look like.
Ha, it was a bit of half-hearted trolling on my part, but from what I've heard it looks like pigskin when treated. I've seen cadaver skin, and it's none too pretty, but maybe with some TLC and a fine knife it could look passable.

 

[Made in California]

Originally Posted by AlmostFullBenefits

Ha, it was a bit of half-hearted trolling on my part, but from what I've heard it looks like pigskin when treated. I've seen cadaver skin, and it's none too pretty, but maybe with some TLC and a fine knife it could look passable.
I'm unsure of how to explain why I think it's so sick/awesome at the same time, but it's a little bit like how some girls are really attracted to serial killers and guys that are just sick in the head. You'd instantly get tagged "seems normal, but probably crazy," which I think is a really great way for people to perceive you.