The State of Black Tie: Your Observations

[Faux Brummell]

98% of Americans think that white tie and morning wear ARE tuxedos. ?

 

[The Chai]

Half the people I meet think I’m either the waiter (events and restaurants) or the door usher (ballet, symphonies and the opera) when I am in black tie. I currently live in Australia. I think if I wore a velvet jacket they’d probably think I’m in a tux

 

[Winot]

New dress shirt from Sean O’Flynn

 

[Concordia]

Interesting solution, that.

Is he still doing the Huntsman shirts, or have they found another source?

 

[Winot]

Interesting solution, that.

Is he still doing the Huntsman shirts, or have they found another source?

Not sure. He seems quite busy. The buttons are on a tape BTW so can be removed.

 

[Andy57]

New dress shirt from Sean O’Flynn
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That's an interesting bib. I'm not sure about the matching collar and cuffs, but that's just a matter of taste. Very nice indeed.

 

[Winot]

That's an interesting bib. I'm not sure about the matching collar and cuffs, but that's just a matter of taste. Very nice indeed.

I must admit I was slightly surprised to see the collar in the ribbed fabric as I had forgotten that was what we agreed. But I checked my Marcella shirt that he made a few years back and it is the same with matching collar and cuffs. I'm sure I will get used to it.

 

[Andy57]

I must admit I was slightly surprised to see the collar in the ribbed fabric as I had forgotten that was what we agreed. But I checked my Marcella shirt that he made a few years back and it is the same with matching collar and cuffs. I'm sure I will get used to it.

Yeah, matching collar and cuffs is standard for a marcella-front shirt. Your shirt seems closer to a pleated shirt, which was why I wasn't sure about it. But I think it's distinctive and could work really well in context.

 

[Winot]

Yeah, matching collar and cuffs is standard for a marcella-front shirt. Your shirt seems closer to a pleated shirt, which was why I wasn't sure about it. But I think it's distinctive and could work really well in context.

Thank you. We did start with the idea of going pleated, and the end result was Sean's suggested variant.

 

[am55]

 

[AdductorMagnus]

There's a "the state of white tie" thread too. Less trafficked, sadly.

 

[The Chai]

There's a "the state of white tie" thread too. Less trafficked, sadly.

Yeah white tie is on the verge of being costume wear. Shame, I would really like a good excuse to get a set of tails made

 

[AdductorMagnus]

I get 4-5 wears a year on my rig, albeit with a black waistcoat.

 

[Concordia]

Colin Hammick fitting room— makes me think it is really thin with a serious coat hanger.

Although he was, with reason, much respected for his work there. From what I understand, he basically invented what we know as the Huntsman silhouette. Which fit him perfectly!

 

[The Chai]

I get 4-5 wears a year on my rig, albeit with a black waistcoat.

I thought it was improper to wear a black waistcoat with tails. Isn’t it supposed to be white/cream only