The Official Dieworkwear Appreciation Thread

[clemente21]

Not sure where to post this so posting here - anyone have suggestions on where to find a similar jacket to this?

 

[double00]

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Not sure where to post this so posting here - anyone have suggestions on where to find a similar jacket to this?

ricky jacket , a civilian version of an eisenhower jacket

 

[DorianGreen]

A version in linen and wool from Pini Parma.

Another one in wool, same producer.

 

[double00]

A version in linen and wool from Pini Parma.

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Another one in wool, same producer.

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op is asking about a blouson , no quarters . the eisenhower is a cropped military field jacket but this is a civvy version and looks to be gabardine .



a ricky jacket ; i guess history has largely forgotten ike's ne'er-do-well brother

 

[LA Guy]

Yeah, the idea that Craig's overly slim-fitting suits is an intentional wardrobe decision seems a bit far-fetched. The fact that James Bond stans are always drooling over his fits seems to confirm that.

Just because the Stans have no education about suits is not really evidence of anything. It could just as easily be an extra layer or type of that most people miss and make it all that much interesting.

 

[DorianGreen]

op is asking about a blouson , no quarters . the eisenhower is a cropped military field jacket but this is a civvy version and looks to be gabardine .

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a ricky jacket ; i guess history has largely forgotten ike's ne'er-do-well brother

From that picture it wasn't clear.

 

[LA Guy]

Derek's tweet takes...aren't that good?
1. DC's fits are far too slim. Intentional or otherwise, if the intent is anything approximating CM...it ain't.
2. King/prince (who really cares?) of Spain's fit is...eh? No doubt the quality is top class...but the idea that the look itself is head and shoulders above the normies is silly. Midsection far too slim, if nothing else. You can find better fits (RTW) in the Spier thread.
3. The "proper" suit sans tie = always terrible is a hoot. The kind of hogwash D would say only so and so ('ello Mr. Boyer!) could pull off. Would said suit look better with a tie and/or with a more casual suiting? No doubt.
But, the idea that it is indefensibly bad (regardless of fit, etc.) is just fawking stupid.

I like Derek, and I like his takes on modern and designer clothing, but as he's gotten older, his takes on suits have become distressingly Mantonesque and presriptive. He seems to be just fine with Lo-Heads adapting Ralph Lauren to their own looks, but if someone does something similar to suits, he automatically thinks that it looks bad. I don't necessarily think that it looks good, and I don't wear or, if aasked, advise people to wear their suits that way, but I also think that it's interesting.

 

[ericgereghty]

I like Derek, and I like his takes on modern and designer clothing, but as he's gotten older, his takes on suits have become distressingly Mantonesque and presriptive. He seems to be just fine with Lo-Heads adapting Ralph Lauren to their own looks, but if someone does something similar to suits, he automatically thinks that it looks bad. I don't necessarily think that it looks good, and I don't wear or, if aasked, advise people to wear their suits that way, but I also think that it's interesting.

I think this may be the most damning of all possible takes (from a content perspective), but I find his posts more tedious than anything, more often than not.

I'm happy to entertain his view on "why" suits sans tie objectively look bad, but "it would be better if the suit were seersucker" is hardly compelling.

Sure, but "it just looks so bad" as an objective rule strikes me as political operative hackery, for good or bad.

I know D's more intent on making digs at contrarians than serious debate on Twitter (which, fair lol), but his last two posts I've taken note of (suits sans tie are no bueno and who cares rich guy from Spain looks impossibly good in his tailoring) were just laughably off the mark for me.

 

[mhip]

I'm happy to entertain his view on "why" suits sans tie objectively look bad

I still say Tom Ellis absolutely killed it with that look...

 

[Texasmade]

I still say Tom Ellis absolutely killed it with that look...

Bro looks so bad sans tie

 

[gimpwiz]

Objectively, though? Or merely subjectively?

 

[symphvaria]

I still say Tom Ellis absolutely killed it with that look...

Have to agree with Derek that this would absolutely look better with a tie. A 3 piece and a pocket square but no tie looks really incongruous, like he wanted to dress up but then decided to dress it down because...?

 

[mhip]

Have to agree with Derek that this would absolutely look better with a tie. A 3 piece and a pocket square but no tie looks really incongruous, like he wanted to dress up but then decided to dress it down because...?

I liked all of his tie-less looks on that show.
Possibly because I'm in Southern California, and the bar is low and the temperature is not.
If you wear a well cut suit with no tie here, you're in the top 1% of being well dressed.

 

[symphvaria]

I liked all of his tie-less looks on that show.
Possibly because I'm in Southern California, and the bar is low and the temperature is not.
If you wear a well cut suit with no tie here, you're in the top 1% of being well dressed.

By no means does it look bad, but it's an outfit that could be made quite a bit better with the simple addition of a tie. And trust me, here in Singapore, dress codes are just as bad if not worse than SoCal, and temperatures are not much better, so I get where you're coming from. If it were me trying to beat the heat, I'd sooner ditch the waistcoat than the tie.

 

[emptym]

I like Derek, and I like his takes on modern and designer clothing, but as he's gotten older, his takes on suits have become distressingly Mantonesque and presriptive. He seems to be just fine with Lo-Heads adapting Ralph Lauren to their own looks, but if someone does something similar to suits, he automatically thinks that it looks bad. I don't necessarily think that it looks good, and I don't wear or, if aasked, advise people to wear their suits that way, but I also think that it's interesting.

It's precisely because it isn't interesting that Derek's against traditional, plain weave, worsted business suits w/o ties. As usual for him, it's partly social commentary: he dislikes it in part because it's a common look for guys who want to wear a suit and still look casual, but don't know or care to know much about clothing. For the same reason, he'd criticize things like rumpled khakis with a tucked in polo at work or an orphaned suit jacket with jeans, or those sneaker-soled Oxford-upper shoes that have become popular. There's just better options (more tasteful, more creative).

He loves Barims' or Labelking's creative use of the suit, and maybe the clearest example of his endorsing its creative/interesting use was his defense of Billy Porter at the Oscars:

That alone distinguishes him clearly from Manton or even most CM members.

This is not to say I'd defend on everything. I don't like tasseled loafers for example, and I liked the main character of Burn Notice in business suits w/o a tie (though it doesn't look great in stills).