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Shoot. I got the Retros one size down from my Achilles. Same size had my heel slipping nearly out of the shoe when I tried them, but now I'm wondering if they just needed to be broken in?
...I'm not sure if stretching the shoe out more after breaking them in is going to make that heel lock in place. Haha, the logic just isn't there my friend.
 

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...I'm not sure if stretching the shoe out more after breaking them in is going to make that heel lock in place. Haha, the logic just isn't there my friend.


Generally, heel slip reduces as shoes break in and the sole flexes more when you take steps.

Anyway, I think I'm going to try to break in the smaller size. Crazy that I have 43 in CP Chelsea boots, 42 in Achilles, and now the still uncertain 41 in Retros. Anyone else wear such a wide range of sizes in CPs?
 
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Wait so your jeans get tighter the more you wear them too? Interesting.


It's not about the shoe getting tighter, it's about the sole being able to flex so that the heel of the shoe can travel up with the heel of your foot when you walk. Does that make sense? The other thing that reduces heel slip as some shoes break in is that the footbed molds to your foot/heel, keeping it more in place.

Also, jeans don't get tighter after you wear them, but they do get shorter because of the creases that develop around the knees. That's why I always get my jeans hemmed after I've worn them a couple times.
 

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It's not about the shoe getting tighter, it's about the sole being able to flex so that the heel of the shoe can travel up with the heel of your foot when you walk. Does that make sense? The other thing that reduces heel slip as some shoes break in is that the footbed molds to your foot/heel, keeping it more in place.

Also, jeans don't get tighter after you wear them, but they do get shorter because of the creases that develop around the knees. That's why I always get my jeans hemmed after I've worn them a couple times.

Denim might get tighter. Once your body produce heat & sweat - the garment may be able to shrink a bit over time (especially if it's unsanforized). The same thing is possible with shoes, if you choose correct size.

One foot normally produce around 20 cl sweat in one day (give or take). This can lead to some shrinkage when the leather dry up & of course the opposite if you choose a shoe that's to small.

The same rule applies to denim. A regular fit denim might shrink a bit - a tight fit... Na, not in my experience.
 
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Sorry folks but leather does not shrink when you wear it - it does the complete opposite. If you have heel slip you have heel slip and no amount of wear will fix that problem; only a heel grip will help but I hate to use them. My advise: always buy your correct size.

Raw denim can and will shrink on complete exposure to water, i.e. cold soaking or machine washing, but body moisture? I doubt you'll will see anything. But the denim then stretches to the wearers size or to the max. it can physically stretch to. These are the physical laws of materials and not the laws of 'mumbo jumbo'.
 

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Sorry folks but leather does not shrink when you wear it - it does the complete opposite. If you have heel slip you have heel slip and no amount of wear will fix that problem; only a heel grip will help but I hate to use them. My advise: always buy your correct size.

Raw denim can and will shrink on complete exposure to water, i.e. cold soaking or machine washing, but body moisture? I doubt you'll will see anything. But the denim then stretches to the wearers size or to the max. it can physically stretch to. These are the physical laws of materials and not the laws of 'mumbo jumbo'.


I agree with everything you said except that heel slip does not decrease from the first time one tries on a shoe. I believe heel slip does decerease in certain shoes. The shoe doesn't shrink, but it does become more flexible and your foot does, depending on the materials used, sink into it more.
 

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Sorry folks but leather does not shrink when you wear it - it does the complete opposite. If you have heel slip you have heel slip and no amount of wear will fix that problem; only a heel grip will help but I hate to use them. My advise: always buy your correct size.

Raw denim can and will shrink on complete exposure to water, i.e. cold soaking or machine washing, but body moisture? I doubt you'll will see anything. But the denim then stretches to the wearers size or to the max. it can physically stretch to. These are the physical laws of materials and not the laws of 'mumbo jumbo'.
OK. I've experience from shrinkage with denim & shoes.
 
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OK. I've experience from shrinkage with denim & shoes.


Yes I said denim does shrink, it'll shrink even more if you tumble dry it after soaking/washing, but it also stretches when you wear it. Leather shoes might shrink if you drenched them in water and then dried them out with heat but you have then ruined your leather shoes.
 

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I agree with everything you said except that heel slip does not decrease from the first time one tries on a shoe. I believe heel slip does decerease in certain shoes. The shoe doesn't shrink, but it does become more flexible and your foot does, depending on the materials used, sink into it more.


You might want to edit your post because your first sentence contradicts what you originally stated. Have to disagree with your second statement because heel slip is caused by the shoe being an incorrect fit / to long, unless you can physically change the length of the shoe that slippage won't change.
 

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