The official CELINE thread

[slpldr]

Can we get some pics??

Here. It looks fine with white turtleneck and boots, but on last 3 pics it looks odd, either bulky or very old-fashioned. Shoulders are quite big because of roping and shoulder pads, so the are slightly wider than my actual shoulders.

Armholes are rather small, but I can put a sweater in them comfortably, not like in SLP coats. If fits well on the chest, but sleeves themselves are quite loose.

 

[slpldr]

Other fit pics are here https://www.grailed.com/listings/63...e-19fw-prince-of-wales-chesterfield-coat-sz44, but keep in mind that grey one has a thicker material, and the majority are wearing it this OG version which runs one size smaller.

Here guy is wearing another variation (apparently thinner of a cashmere version) of this coat.

 

[Nyarlathotep]

Looks good to me. re: sleeves, it's an overcoat, it's not supposed to be skin tight.

 

[GG Allin]

Looks good to me. re: sleeves, it's an overcoat, it's not supposed to be skin tight.

Yeah, I may be blind, but I think it looks damn near perfect. It definitely doesn't look as slim as the slp chesterfields, but I've come around to the belief that those are too slim (although I have one and wear it).

It's obviously personal preference, but I think that for double breasted overcoats, it's nice to have the option to layer them, since they're winter coats, and for fall weather you can rock your leather jackets/similar outerwear.

But to be clear, I get where you're coming from, with regard to being hyper-conscious of it being looser in certain areas, which if you're a hedi slimane diehard may be a new feeling.

 

[slpldr]

Yeah, I may be blind, but I think it looks damn near perfect. It definitely doesn't look as slim as the slp chesterfields, but I've come around to the belief that those are too slim (although I have one and wear it).

It's obviously personal preference, but I think that for double breasted overcoats, it's nice to have the option to layer them, since they're winter coats, and for fall weather you can rock your leather jackets/similar outerwear.

But to be clear, I get where you're coming from, with regard to being hyper-conscious of it being looser in certain areas, which if you're a hedi slimane diehard may be a new feeling.

When I'm wearing it with brighter turtlenecks, it looks absolutely perfect, but on last 3 pics ,where I wear it with the shirt/tie and black turtleneck, its suddenly looks super bug, and I cant figure why, is it because of the angle or color? Runway examples also have collar gaps, and necks appear small in respect to shoulders, but my impression is that on runway/campaign images this coat is even more oversized, while all guys on IG fit pics sized down/wore older smaller version.

I really didn't expect it to fit like AMI Paris straight fit non-oversized blazers/coats, and it feels and is sized similarly.

I personally like the material (wool gabardine) and overall quality/construction of Hedi's SLP coats, but don't like the fit and feel, they are just way too slim and narrow, I can't layer it at all, cant move in them, cant size up because than sleeves are way too long and they come-off stupid, they also look rather dated and Dior Homme-y, like its from 200x-something.

 

[slpldr]

Here are photos with how it fits with a white t-shirt and casual shirt:

I don't get Hedi vibe from it, I get Mickey Rourke from 9 1/2 weeks, not that its a bad, but not something that I expected.

 

[jesuisjesuis]

The one you bought from Mr Porter is the FW23 version from the Le Palace collection (item code 2M024998K), it is not the same as the FW19 one from the Youtube video (2M224905E).

The FW19 coat (wool felt btw, not cashmere) is cut for layering with suiting (almost all coats for the FW19 show were). As I don't really wear suiting with overcoats, sizing down on it provided me with a slimmer fit while still retaining some roominess. It's super long and drapes very nicely.

I tried that FW23 coat on and the cut is quite unflattering and nothing like the FW19 one. I can relate to the same issues you're citing (loose sleeves that are too long for a typical "Hedi" cut). I was actually shocked at how poor it fit, and sizing down wouldn't help in this case.

If you can, seek out the FW19 coat and go for a size down.

 

[slpldr]

The one you bought from Mr Porter is the FW23 version from the Le Palace collection (item code 2M024998K), it is not the same as the FW19 from the Youtube video (2M224905E).

The FW19 coat (wool felt btw, not cashmere) is cut layering with suiting (almost all coats for the FW19 show were). As I don't really wear suiting with overcoats, sizing down on it provided me with a slimmer fit while still retaining some roominess. It's super long and drapes very nicely.

I tried that FW23 coat on and the is cut quite unflattering and nothing like the FW19 one. I can relate to the same issues you're citing (loose sleeves that are too long for a typical "Hedi" cut). I was actually shocked at how poor it fit, and sizing down wouldn't help in this case.

If you can, seek out the FW19 coat and go for a size down.

Yes, the one I've bought is 2M024998K.38NO, however grey one is the same model 2M024 AFAIK. I would be happy is the coat was like half size smaller without loose sleeves. Primarily I want to wear it with a turtleneck, like on pictures, but with this particular one something is off, it doest sit right etc.

 

[MORNINGSTAR777]

When I'm wearing it with brighter turtlenecks, it looks absolutely perfect, but on last 3 pics ,where I wear it with the shirt/tie and black turtleneck, its suddenly looks super bug, and I cant figure why, is it because of the angle or color? Runway examples also have collar gaps, and necks appear small in respect to shoulders, but my impression is that on runway/campaign images this coat is even more oversized, while all guys on IG fit pics sized down/wore older smaller version.

I really didn't expect it to fit like AMI Paris straight fit non-oversized blazers/coats, and it feels and is sized similarly.

I personally like the material (wool gabardine) and overall quality/construction of Hedi's SLP coats, but don't like the fit and feel, they are just way too slim and narrow, I can't layer it at all, cant move in them, cant size up because than sleeves are way too long and they come-off stupid, they also look rather dated and Dior Homme-y, like its from 200x-something.

Jumping on the “it fits!” train. I think it looks very balanced - slim without being too restrictive, can fit a suit jacket or blazer.

 

[slpldr]

tbh im looking to buy it for like next 3-5 years, regardless of how hedi-like it is. I've collected measurements across different people, including ones owning grey version, and it seems that mine is just exactly one size up from the original FW2019 2M02 coat, but cant pinpoint what is off. maybe its the material that comes off a loose, or a cut, why they would change the cut for the same model?

It kind of looks like it's a regular non-designer grandpas overcoat you get in a gentleman's store, and I am confused if it was an original intent or it's some problem with the production. I noticed loose sleeves throughout Celine campaigns on IG, especially among women ones.

Anyway, it's still kind of strange, I can pinch quite a lot of fabric around the waist with this coat. Its not supposed to fit like AMI know for loose and oversized fits, even if I wear a jacket underneath I still have loose fabric, its strange.

Anyway I've just tried it again and it's way too loose, like despite wearing all turtlenecks and so on, it's just too roomy for me, and the cut around the waist is unflattering. I'm also loosing weight ATM, so it would get worse.

Thanks everybody for your input!

 

[slpldr]

BTW which coat is this one from SS2019?

 

[GG Allin]

^That looks great, unsuprispingly.

It seems like you're trying to hit that sweet spot between slim af slp and ami Paris. For me, from the pics you've posted, you look like you're pretty close to dead center, but it's hard to tell from a pic just posing in front of a mirror, like we said to dtob.

Obviously fit is a very personal thing, and if you're not 100% on it, I'd just do what jesuisjuis suggested and find a 2019 one and size down one. The problem is that this will probably entail buying on a secondhand market, where returns won't be an option.

By the way, I've always been in love with Hedi Slimane's overcoats. I think, next to leather jackets, it's what he does best (maybe slightly behind boots).

 

[slpldr]

^That looks great, unsuprispingly.

It seems like you're trying to hit that sweet spot between slim af slp and ami Paris. For me, from the pics you've posted, you look like you're pretty close to dead center, but it's hard to tell from a pic just posing in front of a mirror, like we said to dtob.

Obviously fit is a very personal thing, and if you're not 100% on it, I'd just do what jesuisjuis suggested and find a 2019 one and size down one. The problem is that this will probably entail buying on a secondhand market, where returns won't be an option.

By the way, I've always been in love with Hedi Slimane's overcoats. I think, next to leather jackets, it's what he does best (maybe slightly behind boots).

it looks ok on some photos but it person its very weird, with huge tube-like sleeves as if its a Balenciaga coat. I had similar problem with Vaccarello's L01 - YSL made it roomier with wides sleeves and without expanding shoulders, and now it looks like an egg, oddly bulky it all wrong places, as if its a knock-off of the original.

 

[jesuisjesuis]

BTW which coat is this one from SS2019?

https://www.celine.com/en-ca/double-breasted-classic-coat-in-cashmere-2M068975C.html

This one is cut like the usual Hedi fit

 

[slpldr]

https://www.celine.com/en-ca/double-breasted-classic-coat-in-cashmere-2M068975C.html

This one is cut like the usual Hedi fit

So with this one I should go same size I usually wear in Celine? Also, is the original AF2019 2M024 in grey prince of Wales cut in the same odd way as La Palace Wool Felt one I tried, or its better?