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The Dalton boot looks like hell. Undersized wingtip, as if they didn't cut enough material to stitch to the vamp. All shaft and no head. Now let's get back to Aldens.

Beebs, I am with you personally, I like the Dalton, but there was always something slightly odd with the fit for me. I agree with you on the Aldens!

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But this wingtip is highly preferred :)

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That said, I am in the market for a black shell boot. Any personal faves for those who own a pair? Tend to like the TSM captoe, all eyelets on double leather. Commando is super comfy, but I'm a bit "fearful" that a black shiny boot on commando may make me look like a guerilla rebel, punk rocker, or disenchanted emo teen.

Beebs, I am now getting two Black Shell Boots. I am getting the Black NST Boot on the Plaza Last from JGilbert and I am getting the Alden Black Cap Toe on the Grant on Command with Hooks (4065HC) from Alden DC. Kathy was just getting ready to do another run of the 4065HC about a month ago, she may have already submitted the order. Not sure if they were pre-confirmed or not. Yenni has made her NST her top pri order.

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Black shell NST on Plaza sounds awesome. I have been wanting a black boot and that would fit the bill quite nicely.
 

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I love AE's Dalton. I have two pairs, on in the aforementioned burgundy shell cordovan and another in bourbon calf. Wonderful boots. I would purchase another pair, but would prefer a cap toe instead of another pair of Wingtips in cordovan. Maybe the Wolverines should be my target.

Down the line I wouldn't rule out purchasing another pair of Daltons, maybe in chocolate calf the next time they go on sale.

Buddy, just out of curiosity, have you tried an Alden boot on yet?
 

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Allen Edmonds has a thread. I have owned some, worn some, and have one pair left that I'd like to sell. They are nowhere near as nice as Aldens. They offer a good value for a properly goodyear welted leather soled shoe made in the US. But if you can afford better, your feet deserve better. And their shell offerings, unless you get them as seconds or somehow on sale, are simply not a great deal when the same can be had from Alden or Carmina, whose lasts and craftsmanship are far superior. Mac and the other juggernauts of this thread do not own AE for a reason - wearing them is a day not wearing Alden.
 

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Maybe. I actually am loving Carmina's stuff a bit more. For boots, I'll always love Alden. Not as big a fan of Alden calfskin, but I do have my Alden boots, which are my babies.

And yes, my Dalton in shell does compare favorably. At least I think so. My AE mora 2.0? Not so much.

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Beebs, I am now getting two Black Shell Boots. I am getting the Black NST Boot on the Plaza Last from JGilbert and I am getting the Alden Black Cap Toe on the Grant on Command with Hooks (4065HC) from Alden DC. Kathy was just getting ready to do another run of the 4065HC about a month ago, she may have already submitted the order. Not sure if they were pre-confirmed or not. Yenni has made her NST her top pri order.

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But Mike, didn't you have an issue with too much creasing on nsts, or do you think the plaza would give a different result?
 

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Allen Edmonds has a thread. I have owned some, worn some, and have one pair left that I'd like to sell. They are nowhere near as nice as Aldens. They offer a good value for a properly goodyear welted leather soled shoe made in the US. But if you can afford better, your feet deserve better. And their shell offerings, unless you get them as seconds or somehow on sale, are simply not a great deal when the same can be had from Alden or Carmina, whose lasts and craftsmanship are far superior. Mac and the other juggernauts of this thread do not own AE for a reason - wearing them is a day not wearing Alden.

Roguls, I agree with you by and large. I still really like the Strand. I wish Alden would make more of the Plaza Semi-Brogues, Alden is an interesting company, as they have some amazing gems that they just don't ever produce...

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But Mike, didn't you have an issue with too much creasing on nsts, or do you think the plaza would give a different result?

Beebs, I had the Ravello NST on the Aberdeen last and it was a 10.5D. I am an 11B or 10.5C on the Aberdeen last. I wanted to give the NST another shot in the proper fitting size. I think that the NSTs do crease, but it was exacerbated by the poor fit on my feet.

I really miss them, the Ravello color on them was amazing, but I know that they are in a good home and are getting more wear than I gave them. Plus I got one of my favorite shoes that I now own out of them.

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Allen Edmonds has a thread. I have owned some, worn some, and have one pair left that I'd like to sell. They are nowhere near as nice as Aldens. They offer a good value for a properly goodyear welted leather soled shoe made in the US. But if you can afford better, your feet deserve better. And their shell offerings, unless you get them as seconds or somehow on sale, are simply not a great deal when the same can be had from Alden or Carmina, whose lasts and craftsmanship are far superior. Mac and the other juggernauts of this thread do not own AE for a reason - wearing them is a day not wearing Alden.


Indeed they do have a thread. I mention them as a point of reference. Disparaging and dismissing them is shortsighted / ignorant and indicative of snobbish preconceptions. I've worn some Alden balmorals and in my opinion they are inferior to offerings from Allen Edmonds. Does Alden have a superior selection of bluchers yes? But since most of my dress shoes are balmorals that probably explains why I gravitated to AE instead of Alden. I have boots from both brands, love the Daltons. love my Fifth Streets. I have a pair of Kudu Indy boots which are constructed very well with a great lug sole, but that makeup is overly clunky IMO; that said ai preordered a pair of Indy's from Epaulet this week in their Innsbruck makeup. Bottom line, there are pros and cons to offerings and practices of both companies, and I respect the virtues and benefits that each offer to me as a consumer.

As for so called "juggernauts" everyone has a right to their own opinion and heroes; I consider myself an independent thinker not tied down by the conventions, biases, and preconceptions of others.
 
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