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How about no sleeves?
I was not aware such a beast existed until now.
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How about no sleeves?
Can we all agree that the absolute worst would be a short sleeve shirt and tie, without a jacket?
The difference between going tieless and jacketless is that most people not wearing a jacket are doing it because they can't afford one, or can't afford a lightweight summer one.
Most people wearing a jacket but not tie are doing it simply because it's more comfortable in the heat, or they want to make look more casual - this is why it's seen as more acceptable.
...at my school, any teacher coming in without a jacket would be either laughed or given some stern words by the deputy headmaster, whereas in the summer, when 'summer dress' regulation were in force, going open-collared was positively encouraged.
I like the open-collared look, with the right shirt and suit - done well it looks sharp but relaxed. Shirt and tie without suit just looks like the work experience boy trying to look 'smart.'
On reviewing this thread, I am struck by what a pity it is that the ascot (British day cravat) has become so marginalized and viewed as pretentious and costume-y by so many people, including, unfortunately, my wife. Personally, I am coming more and more to dislike wearing an open necked shirt except in the most casual of situations, e.g., hiking or something like that.
How about no sleeves?
The difference between going tieless and jacketless is that most people not wearing a jacket are doing it because they can't afford one, or can't afford a lightweight summer one. ... I like the open-collared look, with the right shirt and suit - done well it looks sharp but relaxed. Shirt and tie without suit just looks like the work experience boy trying to look 'smart.'
If you lived and worked in somewhere really hot and sticky you might change your mind. I'm afraid I have to agree with your wife on the Ascot which has definitely passed into parody land. Also the notion that this would be cooler than just a shirt and tie is suspect. Any sort of scarf around the neck directly is very heating more so than a regular tie. We'd all prefer a jacket whenever a tie is worn but speaking from experience it's not always practical and in a choice between shirt and no tie and shirt with tie I'd go with the former.