** Quintessential Crockett & Jones Thread ** (reviews, quality, etc...)

[bemk]

In regards to Conistons, outside of taking UK sizing, is the last/boot suitable if you have a low instep or would the facings bunch up too much? Looking at either Conistons or Islays (yes, different lasts) but still need to find time to try and get sized.

I would say it is not for low insteps. My instep is somewhat low and it barely works for me. I can live with it, but be very careful if you have a very low instep. I have been planning on getting a tongue pad, but so far I have not bothered.

@Mghart , I share @Menninki s perception.

I'm wearing Tricker's boots made on the 4497s last and on those I get a distinct V-shaped like here #26,201
On my 325 (Coniston) boots it's a perfect match, see e.g. #28,254

The Islay/365 is strange. For me it works although the last is roomier than many others. It seems that on the instep the 365 is lower than 325 for example, but for toes and heel there is much more room.

That's what I found too. Not much lower, but yeah, a bit. I didn't expect that.

 

[Humpty_Dumpty_Rises]

I would say it is not for low insteps. My instep is somewhat low and it barely works for me. I can live with it, but be very careful if you have a very low instep. I have been planning on getting a tongue pad, but so far I have not bothered.

The Islay/365 is strange. For me it works although the last is roomier than many others. It seems that on the instep the 365 is lower than 325 for example, but for toes and heel there is much more room.

Correctly described for Islay/365

 

[aquatherm]

I stopped by the CJ shop on Jermyn Street today to check out a few models from their winter collection. The main ones I was interested in were the Kelso, Elgin, and then the Chepstow. I already own a dark brown suede derby boot in the Eskdale 2, so I wasn’t sure if getting something so similar made sense. However, I ended up really liking the Chepstow, especially since it’s on the same last as the Eskdale.

I also have a dark brown suede chukka boot, so I’m leaning towards getting the Chepstow in mushroom suede instead. One thing I don’t understand is the pricing – the espresso suede version is £545 (same as the leather version), but the mushroom suede is £475. Does anyone know why there’s such a difference in price for the same boot in different suede colours?

 

[Humpty_Dumpty_Rises]

I stopped by the CJ shop on Jermyn Street today to check out a few models from their winter collection. The main ones I was interested in were the Kelso, Elgin, and then the Chepstow. I already own a dark brown suede derby boot in the Eskdale 2, so I wasn’t sure if getting something so similar made sense. However, I ended up really liking the Chepstow, especially since it’s on the same last as the Eskdale.

I also have a dark brown suede chukka boot, so I’m leaning towards getting the Chepstow in mushroom suede instead. One thing I don’t understand is the pricing – the espresso suede version is £545 (same as the leather version), but the mushroom suede is £475. Does anyone know why there’s such a difference in price for the same boot in different suede colours?

Because its a different suede, (possibly from a different tannery), sourced at a different price. Doesn't means its any inferior because its cheaper. Vice versa, doesnt mean your espresso suede is any superior just because its bit more expensive. Just different suedes from difference tanneries i reckon.

 

[aquatherm]

Yes you're right. Espresso Brown suede on the Chepstow is Calf Suede and the Mushroom suede uses Repello suede

 

[lumow]

I stopped by the CJ shop on Jermyn Street today to check out a few models from their winter collection. The main ones I was interested in were the Kelso, Elgin, and then the Chepstow. I already own a dark brown suede derby boot in the Eskdale 2, so I wasn’t sure if getting something so similar made sense. However, I ended up really liking the Chepstow, especially since it’s on the same last as the Eskdale.

I also have a dark brown suede chukka boot, so I’m leaning towards getting the Chepstow in mushroom suede instead. One thing I don’t understand is the pricing – the espresso suede version is £545 (same as the leather version), but the mushroom suede is £475. Does anyone know why there’s such a difference in price for the same boot in different suede colours?

Generally in the C&J range the products sold as ”Calf Suede” leather are more expensive than products sold as just ”Suede” leather. Difference is that the calf suede is using the whole substance (also called full-reverse suede) of the skin whereas the other variety (also called split suede) is not. I have both varieties and don’t think the difference is that big.

 

[lumow]

Here is a good article explaining the differences: https://shoegazing.com/2021/01/06/guide-nubuck-suede-and-roughout-leather-explained/

 

[aquatherm]

Does the Calf Suede undergo the same water resistance treatment as Repello?

 

[Humpty_Dumpty_Rises]

Generally in the C&J range the products sold as ”Calf Suede” leather are more expensive than products sold as just ”Suede” leather. Difference is that the calf suede is using the whole substance (also called full-reverse suede) of the skin whereas the other variety (also called split suede) is not. I have both varieties and don’t think the difference is that big.

I would be surprised at C&J using split suede in their collection.

 

[Bayou Tiger]

CF Stead Repello is a split suede, although a high-quality one. I sent an email to C&J a while back specifically asking about the Lanark 3 in brown suede. Their response, “The suede on the Lanark is split calf suede.” (I was also surprised at split suede). FYI, C&J’s handgrade line uses un-split reverse suede.

I still enjoy the split suede Lanarks and find them to be of excellent materials and construction.

 

[ha er]

coniston black rough out

 

[Fenners81]

I would say it is not for low insteps. My instep is somewhat low and it barely works for me. I can live with it, but be very careful if you have a very low instep. I have been planning on getting a tongue pad, but so far I have not bothered.

The Islay/365 is strange. For me it works although the last is roomier than many others. It seems that on the instep the 365 is lower than 325 for example, but for toes and heel there is much more room.

I would agree with this. I have quite wide, but low volume feet and the 325 feels very roomy around the instep. Although the 4497 and 365 lasts are overall more generous, they are definitely more snug in this area. I would say 365 works best for me with 4497 a close second. I would describe 325 as acceptable.

 

[Markintosh]

I stopped by the CJ shop on Jermyn Street today to check out a few models from their winter collection. The main ones I was interested in were the Kelso, Elgin, and then the Chepstow. I already own a dark brown suede derby boot in the Eskdale 2, so I wasn’t sure if getting something so similar made sense. However, I ended up really liking the Chepstow, especially since it’s on the same last as the Eskdale.

I also have a dark brown suede chukka boot, so I’m leaning towards getting the Chepstow in mushroom suede instead. One thing I don’t understand is the pricing – the espresso suede version is £545 (same as the leather version), but the mushroom suede is £475. Does anyone know why there’s such a difference in price for the same boot in different suede colours?

I stopped by the CJ shop on Jermyn Street today to check out a few models from their winter collection. The main ones I was interested in were the Kelso, Elgin, and then the Chepstow. I already own a dark brown suede derby boot in the Eskdale 2, so I wasn’t sure if getting something so similar made sense. However, I ended up really liking the Chepstow, especially since it’s on the same last as the Eskdale.

I also have a dark brown suede chukka boot, so I’m leaning towards getting the Chepstow in mushroom suede instead. One thing I don’t understand is the pricing – the espresso suede version is £545 (same as the leather version), but the mushroom suede is £475. Does anyone know why there’s such a difference in price for the same boot in different suede colours?

I’ve always wanted to go to the store at 92 Jermyn St - Thomas there has helped me with six MTO’s over the last two years - with a seventh currently on the way.

 

[Ypuh]

I would agree with this. I have quite wide, but low volume feet and the 325 feels very roomy around the instep. Although the 4497 and 365 lasts are overall more generous, they are definitely more snug in this area. I would say 365 works best for me with 4497 a close second. I would describe 325 as acceptable.

Good description of a similar footshape. I'd rate 4497 my favorite, and 325 my second favorite out of 10-15 or so different lasts. Appears I now need a C&J on the 365 last to confirm.

Unfortunately this is only used in boots and not shoes (I like boots, but don't wear them too often).

 

[bemk]

Northampton Brownie

- Crockett & Jones Coniston, Dark Brown Scotch Grain -