Prince Charles single-breasted jacket

[TheWraith]



Yes it is. The internet invented the idea that they're incorrect. Notch lapels have been common and correct on dinner jackets since the invention of semi-formal eveningwear- at one point in one of these threads I dug up some photos from the 30's of a black tie event showing notch, peak, and shawl present in roughly equal proportion. The iGent rule sprung up from the fact that most tuxedos/DJs being sold today are of the cheap, two button, notch lapel variety, making it wise to differentiate yourself from that look. That morphed into "only peak or shawl is ever correct", which got preached to a bunch of people coming on forums like this who didn't know any better. Very similar to the 'black suits are and always have been evil' myth, now that I think about it.

Prince Charles' dinner jacket in that photo is entirely correct and proper. Looks good on him too, though these days he favors (what else) a double breasted one.

http://www.blacktieguide.com/

 

[cptjeff]



http://www.blacktieguide.com/

I'm aware of the website. While it is generally very good, it's not perfect, and reflects the iGent bias against notch lapels, despite hosting things like this ad from 1929:

If you want to avoid notch lapels, fine. I'd even argue that it's indeed wise to do so, considering the preponderance of ****** notch lapeled rentals. But the idea that the classic rules held them to be incorrect, or that they didn't exist- it's crap. A modern invention.

 

[TheWraith]

An ad from that time period doesn't mean it was "correct" to wear notch lapels then or that it was seen as sartorially correct by those in the know. An ad today means nothing. I doubt it meant much more back then.

 

[CrimsonSox]

Prince Charles looks elegant in this single-breasted suit. Note the tone-on-tone match between the shirt and tie in the spirit of his grand-uncle:

 

[CrimsonSox]

The Prince's single-breasted suit has jetted pockets:

 

[RyanM]



An ad from that time period doesn't mean it was "correct" to wear notch lapels then or that it was seen as sartorially correct by those in the know. An ad today means nothing. I doubt it meant much more back then.

 

[GBR]



Looks like the old boy's lost a bit of weight.

HF, do you think he'd step aside in favor of William if ERII reigns another 10 years?

No

 

[Holdfast]

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It's reassuring to be reminded that things haven't changed within the 2 months separating your posts.

 

[archetypal_yuppie]



Yes it is. The internet invented the idea that they're incorrect. Notch lapels have been common and correct on dinner jackets since the invention of semi-formal eveningwear- at one point in one of these threads I dug up some photos from the 30's of a black tie event showing notch, peak, and shawl present in roughly equal proportion. The iGent rule sprung up from the fact that most tuxedos/DJs being sold today are of the cheap, two button, notch lapel variety, making it wise to differentiate yourself from that look. That morphed into "only peak or shawl is ever correct", which got preached to a bunch of people coming on forums like this who didn't know any better. Very similar to the 'black suits are and always have been evil' myth, now that I think about it.

Prince Charles' dinner jacket in that photo is entirely correct and proper. Looks good on him too, though these days he favors (what else) a double breasted one.

Thank you! God these wrongisms drove me nuts a year or two ago, vs. foo I think.

 

[TheWraith]



A movie doesn't mean anything either. That's hardly evidence of anything. Have you seen what actors wear, both in movies and in real life? Dumb!

 

[archetypal_yuppie]



A movie doesn't mean anything either. That's hardly evidence of anything. Have you seen what actors wear, both in movies and in real life? Dumb!

It's hard evidence of a very high profile very well dressed '60's man in a notch lapel tux, which is all it claims to be.

The hypothesis being disproved is that only peak is OK and it used to be that way. This is one example showing otherwise.

Dummy.

 

[TheWraith]

Hard evidence of stupidity. Movies prove nothing. James Bond also wears dive watches with suits and dinner jackets. Anyone who thinks that's great (or follows those trends) is fooling themselves.

Dummy!

 

[archetypal_yuppie]

How old are you? Serious question.

 

[RyanM]

Ok, well here's Fred Astaire wearing a notch lapel tux at an awards ceremony in '81. Although I'm sure you'll say that award ceremonies aren't acceptable either, or that '81 is too modern, or that Fred Astaire doesn't know what he's doing, etc.

[VIDEO][/VIDEO]

 

[archetypal_yuppie]



Ok, well here's Fred Astaire wearing a notch lapel tux at an awards ceremony in '81. Although I'm sure you'll say that award ceremonies aren't acceptable either, or that '81 is too modern, or that Fred Astaire doesn't know what he's doing, etc.

Everyone know's Astaire shopped at Men's Warehouse...