OFFICIAL Game of Thrones Thread

[dopey]

the coffee cup was placed by Sansa because she knew caffeine makes Dany all jittery and irrational.

 

[Mariokartfever]

this is why the death of the second dragon was sooooooooooo stupid. It's an impossible shot (yes I know dragons) all the more so from the deck of the ship. Killing one so easily then having Dany destroy a few hundred of the things is terrible writing

Man so I’ve been conflicted on GOT ever since it really strayed from the books so I’m pissed of about several things per episode.

I liked last nights but have some gripes and thoughts

1. Why the **** was it so easy to kill an injured dragon (maybe that’s the point) when the fully healed one was able to burn euron’s fleet so easily.

2. So dany is going mad queen?

2nd dragon was killed, along with Missendei, to justify Dany's rage so she could burn 1000s of women and children. ****** writing but that's why they did it.

 

[beargonefishing]

Arya running through the city was, in my opinion, the best part of the new season. It was the only time this season the show took time to dramatize one of the characters.

 

[ken]

So I've only seen maybe 4 episodes of the entire series, but wasn't there a giant crossbow right where cersy and jamy croaked? Would've been cool if they found it and killed the dragon.

And you don't kill a pheasant with a slug. They needed to shoot all those things at once in the dragon's general direction. Buck shot.

 

[otc]

Maybe Varys wasn't trying to assassinate Dany with poison. Instead, he had his little bird slipping crazy pills into her food. Maybe something like mercury ("mad hatter" disease).

Perhaps he did the same thing to Aerys.

The "Mad King" was not off his rocker because he was an inbred child, but because he had been poisoned by something that causes you to make rash decisions and compulsively set things on fire. Varys failed in his plot back then, but succeeded this time around.

 

[sinnedk]

2nd dragon was killed, along with Missendei, to justify Dany's rage so she could burn 1000s of women and children. ****** writing but that's why they did it.

yea i am just not happy about it. But it is very GRRM to have her become the mad queen.

Maybe Varys wasn't trying to assassinate Dany with poison. Instead, he had his little bird slipping crazy pills into her food. Maybe something like mercury ("mad hatter" disease).

Perhaps he did the same thing to Aerys.

The "Mad King" was not off his rocker because he was an inbred child, but because he had been poisoned by something that causes you to make rash decisions and compulsively set things on fire. Varys failed in his plot back then, but succeeded this time around.

Firstly, how old is Varys?

Is Robert baratheon's reign that short?

I guess i am wondering what is the timeline of Mad king dying and Dany coming to king's landing. Feels like that whole period is only 10 years or something.

BTW, he couldn't have been poisoning her for rash decisions because she didn't eat for 2 days it was mentioned in the episode. The not eating for two days would lead to bad decisions.

 

[Lionel Hutz]

I’m just going to leave this here.
Sophie Turner as Morticia Adams.

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I think that's the best I've ever seen her look

 

[Ataturk]

Thinking about it some more, are we sure Dany snapped? Or did she just cynically decide to murder all those people to cement her rule ("If I can't have love, I'll have fear..."), and that bit with the bells was her being conflicted about what she was about to do?

Because at the beginning of the episode sure doesn't seem to be interested in Jon's plan to let the city surrender with the bells. I still don't see any reason to think she's crazy. She's not seeing things or even paranoid. If anything she's right to distrust her advisers and allies at this point. They're the ones acting irrationally by holding her to this bizarre standard of bloodless conquest.

 

[Mariokartfever]

yea i am just not happy about it. But it is very GRRM to have her become the mad queen.



Firstly, how old is Varys?

Is Robert baratheon's reign that short?

I guess i am wondering what is the timeline of Mad king dying and Dany coming to king's landing. Feels like that whole period is only 10 years or something.

BTW, he couldn't have been poisoning her for rash decisions because she didn't eat for 2 days it was mentioned in the episode. The not eating for two days would lead to bad decisions.

Must have been about 20 years-ish. Bobby B took the throne at like 18 or 19 IIRC. Joffrey was 13 when they went to Winterfell. Dany lands at Westeros a few years later.

 

[Ataturk]

Must have been about 20 years-ish. Bobby B took the throne at like 18 or 19 IIRC. Joffrey was 13 when they went to Winterfell. Dany lands at Westeros a few years later.

Yeah, everybody is way older than they're supposed to be in the books.

There's another parallel with Star Wars. According to the prequels Ben Kenobi should have been about 45 or 50, but in the movie everyone is surprised he hasn't died of old age.

ETA: I mean, even by the show's timeline Ned should be 35 or so, about the same age as Cersi and Jamie, but he and Robert seem to be about 50.

 

[sinnedk]

Must have been about 20 years-ish. Bobby B took the throne at like 18 or 19 IIRC. Joffrey was 13 when they went to Winterfell. Dany lands at Westeros a few years later.

ahh thanks so 20 years and a bunch of wars sigh sounds like europe in 1914 - 1945

 

[otc]

Firstly, how old is Varys?

Is Robert baratheon's reign that short?

I guess i am wondering what is the timeline of Mad king dying and Dany coming to king's landing. Feels like that whole period is only 10 years or something.

BTW, he couldn't have been poisoning her for rash decisions because she didn't eat for 2 days it was mentioned in the episode. The not eating for two days would lead to bad decisions.

Not sure how old he is supposed to be, but he was an advisor to the mad king and I believe is supposed to be partially responsible for Dany and her brother being stashed away outside of Westeros. Jon Snow's age is a pretty good barometer for the time since Aerys...


He could have started poisoning her prior to her not eating--or his little bird could have gotten some in once she started eating again (out of loyalty to Varys even after his execution).

If it was something to gradually make you crazy rather than kill, 2 days of not eating wouldn't stop it from working.

 

[Texasmade]

Thinking about it some more, are we sure Dany snapped? Or did she just cynically decide to murder all those people to cement her rule ("If I can't have love, I'll have fear..."), and that bit with the bells was her being conflicted about what she was about to do?

Because at the beginning of the episode sure doesn't seem to be interested in Jon's plan to let the city surrender with the bells. I still don't see any reason to think she's crazy. She's not seeing things or even paranoid. If anything she's right to distrust her advisers and allies at this point. They're the ones acting irrationally by holding her to this bizarre standard of bloodless conquest.

I'm leaning this way too. Everyone is already afraid of her and doesn't really like her so she just said "*******, I'll give them a reason to be scared of me". No one on her inner circle is doing what she's asking them to do, her closest friend was beheaded, and one of her dragons was killed. Of course she isn't going to be okay after all that.

 

[beargonefishing]

Maybe they needed a montage.

 

[HRoi]

I’m in the camp of Dany taking a well thought out, premeditated decision to burn the city. After she gets turned down by Jon she says something like all right, let it be fear then. Referring to her realization that no one alive loves her, so she must rule by fear.

The whole vengeance things was just a bonus, but if vengeance was all she was after, she would have flown straight to the Red Keep and destroyed only that part of the city