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[Murlsquirl]

Cutter & Tailor has a nice thread about it.

http://www.cutterandtailor.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=67

Thanks for the link.

 

[Gus]



90% of that jacket is about the shaping of the chest and shoulders.

The shoulders and chest are excellent.

 

[ThinkDerm]



The shoulders and chest are excellent.

it is beautiful and jeffreyd is extremely talented.

 

[Big A]

This is an interesting thread - maybe the first I've read on SF in years

 

[Coxsackie]

It's a good thread, but some entirely gratuitous pictures of women with large breasts would make it better still.

Gotcha!

 

[Gus]

I'm seeing fewer SA's in downtown San Francisco stores wearing ties or jackets/suits. In Neiman Marcus most are still in a jacket and tie, but places like WIlkes and Barney's there is a mix of no tie/no suit and SA's with ties and jackets.

Do you think this makes them more approachable? Some SA's have indicated that they need to dress more relaxed to not intimidate certain customers. If you were an SA dealing with a wide range of people and styles would you wear a tie and jacket everyday?

 

[patrickBOOTH]

I'm currently at a coffee shop in Williamsburg, Brooklyn wearing a full suit (fresco) on a disgustingly hot and humid day. I can't believe I am the only suited gentleman.

 

[dieworkwear]



I'm currently at a coffee shop in Williamsburg, Brooklyn wearing a full suit (fresco) on a disgustingly hot and humid day. I can't believe I am the only suited gentleman.

 

[bertie]

I prefer SAs to dress like the clothes they are selling - it gives me a clue as to whether any of their opinions can be trusted

 

[bourbonbasted]



I'm seeing fewer SA's in downtown San Francisco stores wearing ties or jackets/suits. In Neiman Marcus most are still in a jacket and tie, but places like WIlkes and Barney's there is a mix of no tie/no suit and SA's with ties and jackets.

Do you think this makes them more approachable? Some SA's have indicated that they need to dress more relaxed to not intimidate certain customers. If you were an SA dealing with a wide range of people and styles would you wear a tie and jacket everyday?

I don't think it has to do with intimidation or even the comfort of the SA -- more to do with a wide range of clothing that is being sold. Stores like Barney's in particular (more so in their Co-Ops, but in the motherships as well) really seem to flirt the line between more experimental fashion and classic, well-made pieces. If I'm looking at buying something Raf, I'm not going to give much credence to the guy wearing Brioni. Which leads to bertie's thought...

I prefer SAs to dress like the clothes they are selling - it gives me a clue as to whether any of their opinions can be trusted

The other thing I will say is that SAs in suits/jackets and ties immediately rub me the right or wrong way. More formal clothing is much easier to objectively diagnose as good or bad. So if your shirt/tie/square combo, shoe selection or overall fit look like ****, the fact that you're more dressed up won't lead me to trust you any more. Granted, that may be more an indication of my SF/nerd roots, but I hate when SAs talk/act like experts yet dress as though they don't own a mirror.

 

[dieworkwear]

I don't think I've ever cared whether an SA is well dressed or not. Some guys are and some guys aren't, but that's never affected my ability to get good service from them.

 

[bourbonbasted]



I don't think I've ever cared whether an SA is well dressed or not. Some guys are and some guys aren't, but that's never affected my ability to get good service from them.

I've never based a purchase on whether a SA has been well-dressed or not. But if you dress like Steve Harvey's stunt double and offer advice as canon, you're not gonna get my business. I find that type of scenario is much more typical of large department stores, and therefore something I encounter less and less.

 

[dieworkwear]



I've never based a purchase on whether a SA has been well-dressed or not. But if you dress like Steve Harvey's stunt double and offer advice as canon, you're not gonna get my business. I find that type of scenario is much more typical of large department stores, and therefore something I encounter less and less.

I assume the Steve Harvey reference is an exaggeration, but seriously -- why would you care if an SA is dressed according to your tastes? If you're already in the store and considering a purchase, presumably you think the item is good, so what does it matter how the other person is dressed?

 

[bourbonbasted]



I assume the Steve Harvey reference is an exaggeration, but seriously -- why would you care if an SA is dressed according to your tastes? If you're already in the store and considering a purchase, presumably you think the item is good, so what does it matter how the other person is dressed?

I mean it more in the context of them giving advice and how that advice is delivered. If I walk into Saks and know exactly what I want, the dude working there could be in a clown outfit and I'd still buy. But I have had multiple experiences where an SA has gone out of his way to push his personal tastes as the way things should be done -- whether that manifests as suggesting a jacket two sizes too big or advocating a Merlot shirt and black tie.

I don't mean to say someone dressed to my taste is better or worse at his job, I simply mean to say that if I'm looking for advice it pays to consult someone who gets where I'm coming from.

 

[dieworkwear]



I mean it more in the context of them giving advice and how that advice is delivered. If I walk into Saks and know exactly what I want, the dude working there could be in a clown outfit and I'd still buy. But I have had multiple experiences where an SA has gone out of his way to push his personal tastes as the way things should be done -- whether that manifests as suggesting a jacket two sizes too big or advocating a Merlot shirt and black tie.

I don't think SAs are trying to push their taste so much as they're trying to make a sale. They're all working off of commission -- so whether something fits their taste or your taste, they're going to say it looks great so they can earn their 10% of whatever.

There's one really nicely dressed guy at Wilkes Bashford (used to work at De Corato). I've bought things from him and he acted the same as any SA I've purchased things from. He's not getting paid to make me look good; he's getting paid to push products.