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Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by dieworkwear, Aug 4, 2012.

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  1. dieworkwear

    dieworkwear Well-Known Member

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    SWD has a thread called "Random Fashion Thoughts," which more or less serves as a general chat room for SWD regulars. I think it's a nice way to build community, and a way to get have conversations that aren't topic-specific. This thread serves that.

    Talk about anything you've been thinking related to classic men's style, so long as it doesn't already fit into one of the other discussion threads we have. Examples:


     
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  2. SpooPoker

    SpooPoker Internet Bigtimer and Most Popular Man on Campus

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    Great idea, kind of like Homeroom.
     
  3. dieworkwear

    dieworkwear Well-Known Member

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    I'm somewhat afraid that MC is too topic-specific driven for this to work, but then I realized that once Stitchy finds this thread, it'll be bumped a few times a day.
     
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  4. Holdfast

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    Interesting thread idea. Don't know if it will thrive, but I'll throw out a thought I originally had in the peacock thread that didn't really fit in there, and isn't really enough of a topic for a whole thread:

    • Men have traditionally preferred to build an interchangeable wardrobe of pieces that permit an easy range of always-appropriate, more-or-less conservative looks
    • Women have traditionally preferred to build a wardrobe of outfits, able to adapt to changing moods or particular events.

    The traditional male approach can still work perfectly well for men today. But because there's less of an official or widely-accepted dress standard, it's possible for men to have fun with the feminine approach too. Because it's more mood-specific, it can allow for a tighter match between event/intent and appearance. The concept/dominance of a traditional masculine wardrobe has faded partly because there's simply less need for that kind of easy interchangeability and more scope for an outfit(?fashion)-based approach.
     
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    Agreed Holdfast, it's part of the double edged sword that is "business casual" .

    If you're wearing a jacket, let alone an actual suit you're already considered "formally" dressed, rightly or wrongly. This enables us to play with a greater scope of options. No one will care that you wore chestnut double monks instead of black captoes. On the down side, no one will distinguish a great piece you might have vs just another X. Another big plus is that even if you're a walking travesty on SF, you're most likely better dressed than every other shlub in your place of work.
     
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    I will, and woe betide you if you ever come into contact with me wearing those monstrosities.
     
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    for me it's a matter of design harmony from garment to garment. I have a pretty broad range of styles ('classic' to designer to casual basic) in my wardobe so I can't simply pick any jacket and know it will work with any pant. but within each "group" I guess there are sort of de facto "outfits".. combinations I know work together so I'll repeat them.
     
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    The female approach Holdfast describes strikes me as "playing dressup" whereas the male version is "getting dressed". These days most men have few occasions when a jacket is required, much less a suit and tie. So when such an occasion comes along, an outfit is often bought for this event. At that point, they're playing dressup.

    Btw I hope this thread doesn't die.
     
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    we can trust in this.
     
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    It's kindof a balance.

    I think i'd never be happy just picking up the staple items, but on the other hand I need some items to glue everything together. Things like grey pants. Plain toe derbies. etc.

    That said, when I buy things I do think of specific outfits to wear them with, and then I'm often pleasantly surprised when they work in other outfits that I hadn't had in mind.


    Would I be correct in staying you stick to a fairly narrow colour palette?

    I think that helps.
     
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    what are you talking, my good man?
     
  12. dieworkwear

    dieworkwear Well-Known Member

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    Why are you people still awake? Aren't you employed?
     
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    Unfortunately I'm awake right now due to my employment :confused:

    SF makes for a short burst of welcome distraction though.
     
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    see, the Earth is actually spherical, and it orbits around this massive gassy star that we know of as the sun. The earth also spins on its axis. A direct consequence of this is that at certain points in earth's spin, some parts of the earth are exposed to the sun's rays, and some are not.


    Also, there is a divine ability in postgrad students to procrastinate.
     
  15. dieworkwear

    dieworkwear Well-Known Member

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    At least when you guys lose your employment, you'll know the correct ways to wear a white shirt.
     
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    hahah. ^ ;-)

    yeah, hendrix, I have a fairly monochrome wardrobe which makes mixing easier. but still, the styles of specific items have to mesh. e.g. I have traditional cut jackets that look best with regular "office pants", but also slim cut, shorter jackets that are better with jeans and tees. And then I've even got a few unique items that don't really mix with anything else. so I think of some things as outfits and other things as "ingredients".
     
  17. SpiffEngineer

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    With how confusing and self-contradictory the advice has gotten on MC, I am quite sure that no one knows anything. If you need evidence of this, go to the latest fit thread, 25% of replies talk about how bad the divots are, 25% say there are no divots but the waist is atrocious, 25% say the suit fits perfectly, and the last 25% say that the suit should be thrown away, and replaced with a bespoke navy suit with hacking pockets, a ticket pocket, 7" peak lapels, and one button; with matching cape of course.
     
  18. dieworkwear

    dieworkwear Well-Known Member

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    We ought to have a system that allows us to vote users up or down.

    There's a math forum that does something similar. Whenever someone's post is helpful, people can give it a thumbs or thumbs down, and then this goes on their record. If given enough thumbs up or thumbs down, a user is promoted in certain ways (I think on the math forum, they get some kind of award that's on their public profile). There are all sorts of ways this can work out, but the point is to give new users like the one above an ability to see which opinions he can trust.

    It would also incentivize people to be more helpful, or at least contribute better quality posts.

    Isn't one of Fok's relatives a mathematician? I assume he or she would know which forum I'm talking about. I have a few friends who are graduate students in the math dept. I can ask them if Fok doesn't know.
     
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    The problem with that is exacerbating the inevitable groupthink.
    While perhaps on a math forum something is either useful or not, on here there are much more fluid possibilities...
    Not saying that we should listen to the clowns or whatever, I'm just worried about what could be a big circlejerk. TBH as a poster I wouldn't ever want to feel as if the things I say aren't questioned or dissected, and that's a real risk when you have online reputation.

    I don't really understand why everyone is trying to get the forum to change when it's largely just a product of its posters. Sure, you can format it in ways which are going to give more credence to what might be the intelligent voice, but you still need the threads, the posts, the pictures, the dialogue, the substance. The only way to change the general mass opinion of the forum is to get that voice out there.
     
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  20. Makoto Chan

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    The reputation system that we already have works fine: some member have a good reputation, some don't.

    If you come to Styleforum looking for quick advice on your outfit based on an iPhone pic in your bathroom, well you get what you pay for.
     
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