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How would you compare quality to Grant Stone? I ask because it's in the same price point.MTO Jakkrabbits Service Boots arrived today. Took about 3 months, ordered in October.
Shinki leather
Unstructured cap toe
Dr. soles supergrip
Fit is fine, a bit loose in the heel and waist, and these boots are visibly smaller than my Vibergs in a size 8. Pretty much no break in, it feels comfortable upon putting them on aside from the gusseted tongue making it a bit hard to get in.
Stitching is very clean, some of the clicking is a little messy but not really noticeable.
Would I order again...ehhh maybe not, took too long from what was quoted and the leather is just alright, but I'm just nitpicking. It seems like there's coarse break in the vamp area which if I'm being honest, I hope it doesn't become some veiny looking mess.
Are they better in terms of construction to Vibergs. No, but are they worth what I paid? ~$479 (due to the customizations)...I think at this pricepoint it's fine, you get whatever you want in terms of customization which is nice. I'd probably buy it at 300 though.
Maybe its the leather I chose but it's not very thick and doesn't keep your foot warm. Probably great for the summer climates.How would you compare quality to Grant Stone? I ask because it's in the same price point.
Would sizing down 1/2 size have helped?Maybe its the leather I chose but it's not very thick and doesn't keep your foot warm. Probably great for the summer climates.
These boots are light, they're lighter than my plain toe grant stone crimson shoe.
They're not as comfortable either. I would say grant stone's lasts are better refined, these feel like sliding into slides without as much support, the waist and heel cup don't hug as well. Maybe they need more breaking into or something. My foot pushes forward when walking in these as well.
Live and learn.
We'll see how they feel after a month.
No, they made me send them tracings and measurements of my feet. They would be too tight a half size smaller.Would sizing down 1/2 size have helped?
Agreed with you, their lasts just aren't there and now with cost parity, it's hard to recommend them. I can think of only a handful of guys I'd get boots from over thereMy honest Joe bloke take on this without the IG or YouTube influence?
I found this brand with Google search looking for Shinki boots. Went down rabbit hole, got plenty of Shinki jackets of my own to figure out that these boots will look crackling.
I don’t think Indonesia has the crafting quality of Japan or China yet.
I don’t think Indonesia has the crafting quality of Japan or China yet.
I think one thing that is crucial in the discussion about these Indonesian makers is the fact that they are hand-welted, a labor intensive process that can take up to two full days of work from a master craftsman (compare this to the 30 seconds that it would take a rapid E stitcher).
In terms of value then, these boots would be easily three times the price in the west.
Totally valid points of course.What good is hand welting (which I understand is a labor intensive process) if the boots don't fit or have a last that fits well? Jakkrabbits has a bunch of different last shapes. Does the hand-welting make up for thin leather, or less than refined lasts? This is my fault for not asking more questions and doing more research. People will reach for what feels comfortable.
My white's mp were $550 when I bought them in 2020, they're hand sewn stitch down and feel like a tank, granted the stitching isn't even or as clean, I still appreciate it.
I'm still trying to see where the value of these boots are if they don't feel great.
I'm willing to admit I've made a mistake ordering my pair, but now I have em and might as well eat my costs and make the best of em. I won't be risking another pair. I already have enough boots.
No one's mistake but mine. I have only one experience with Indonesian boots. So I feel I can give an honest opinion and say I won't risk getting another pair. I'll just lurk viberg whatsapp warehouse sale group.
It sucks because I really wanted to like these boots too.