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[jischwar]

"People getting that stipend were some of the lowest wage earners in the US "

This is a false statement the $600 and now the $300 is being given to Everyone on unemployment from min wage to hundreds of thousands. Completely does not depend on your original pay. So if you were in some state with $5 min wage or you were in NYC taking home 300k you got your unemployment plus the $600 or now the $300.

So what is more true is if you were one of the people making low wage you really did not want to go back to work.

But even if you were say making $25 per hour most states you would take home about $600ish a week now the gove gives your another $600 you at mostly double pay this is why most no one wanted to go back.

I think he's saying that low wage earners were disproportionately impacted by the pandemic and therefore more likely to be getting the additional benefit and that's true

 

[serbarristan]

Tobacco suede?

Yessir! Custom with JR and tips.

 

[007Bond]

I think he's saying that low wage earners were disproportionately impacted by the pandemic and therefore more likely to be getting the additional benefit and that's true

I get you and partly agree, but the fact is Everyone on unemployment got it not just low wage earners. So you are saying "therefore more likely to be getting the additional benefit and that's true" There is no "more likely" when again everyone got it no matter original wage you could have made 1 million a year if you filed for UI you got it.

 

[jischwar]

I get you and partly agree, but the fact is Everyone on unemployment got it not just low wage earners. So you are saying "therefore more likely to be getting the additional benefit and that's true" There is no "more likely" when again everyone got it no matter original wage you could have made 1 million a year if you filed for UI you got it.

Okay, we are splitting hairs. I had previously responded to another member that the federal benefit was across the board

 

[Blastwice]

I get you and partly agree, but the fact is Everyone on unemployment got it not just low wage earners. So you are saying "therefore more likely to be getting the additional benefit and that's true" There is no "more likely" when again everyone got it no matter original wage you could have made 1 million a year if you filed for UI you got it.

Well I'm sure there were a lot of millionaires applying for unemployment so they didn't have to work!

 

[zag73]

Yessir! Custom with JR and tips.

Very nice. Sineu is a great last.

 

[007Bond]

Okay, we are splitting hairs. I had previously responded to another member that the federal benefit was across the board

OK did not see that post at least you get how its working.

Well I'm sure there were a lot of millionaires applying for unemployment so they didn't have to work!

Why not they paid into the sys they are as entitled as anyone else it's insurance. I'm kinda joking since if you are a millionaire you are not a slacker who settles for less.


What they should have done was a % of your pay and not a fixed amount.

Under the current plan everyone on UI gets $300 extra per week no matter what. It should have been X% whatever that is even say 50% so you make $200 a week you get an extra $100 a week you make $500 a week you get an extra $250 a week. This would have been fair and made people more eager to return to work.

Seriously how is it fair that someone that was making $500 a week suddenly take home $1100 per week or now $800 why would they want to go back to work. The $600 was insane and the $300 is not much better it should have not been a fixed amount given blanket to everyone.

 

[Blastwice]

OK did not see that post at least you get how its working.



Why not they paid into the sys they are as entitled as anyone else it's insurance. I'm kinda joking since if you are a millionaire you are not a slacker who settles for less.


What they should have done was a % of your pay and not a fixed amount.

Under the current plan everyone on UI gets $300 extra per week no matter what. It should have been X% whatever that is even say 50% so you make $200 a week you get an extra $100 a week you make $500 a week you get an extra $250 a week. This would have been fair and made people more eager to return to work.

Seriously how is it fair that someone that was making $500 a week suddenly take home $1100 per week or now $800 why would they want to go back to work. The $600 was insane and the $300 is not much better it should have no been a fixed amount given blanket to everyone.

"Insane" to give unemployed people in a pandemic a stipend so they don't lose their home/ starve/ have money to keep the heat on. Because... low income earners don't have bills to pay/family to feed/etc. like people who were able to keep their high paying jobs. Sure.

Good conversation that is now over.

 

[zag73]

OK did not see that post at least you get how its working.



Why not they paid into the sys they are as entitled as anyone else it's insurance. I'm kinda joking since if you are a millionaire you are not a slacker who settles for less.


What they should have done was a % of your pay and not a fixed amount.

Under the current plan everyone on UI gets $300 extra per week no matter what. It should have been X% whatever that is even say 50% so you make $200 a week you get an extra $100 a week you make $500 a week you get an extra $250 a week. This would have been fair and made people more eager to return to work.

Seriously how is it fair that someone that was making $500 a week suddenly take home $1100 per week or now $800 why would they want to go back to work. The $600 was insane and the $300 is not much better it should have not been a fixed amount given blanket to everyone.

In the uk , it was capped at £30k annualised. I’m pretty sure, only 80% of the salary could be claimed though. Still generous though.

 

[stook1]

OK did not see that post at least you get how its working.



Why not they paid into the sys they are as entitled as anyone else it's insurance. I'm kinda joking since if you are a millionaire you are not a slacker who settles for less.


What they should have done was a % of your pay and not a fixed amount.

Under the current plan everyone on UI gets $300 extra per week no matter what. It should have been X% whatever that is even say 50% so you make $200 a week you get an extra $100 a week you make $500 a week you get an extra $250 a week. This would have been fair and made people more eager to return to work.

Seriously how is it fair that someone that was making $500 a week suddenly take home $1100 per week or now $800 why would they want to go back to work. The $600 was insane and the $300 is not much better it should have not been a fixed amount given blanket to everyone.

There is another wrinkle to this... taking aside the concept of a living wage (there are few, if any, places in the US where you can survive or support a family on 500/wk). But check this out:

Unemployment Benefits Comparison by State - FileUnemployment.org

Review the unemployment benefits for each state. Get to know the claims that you are eligible for and compare your unemployment benefit...

fileunemployment.org

In Kentucky, for instance, unemployment insurance is $4.30/hr while min wage is 7.25. Both meager. But the individual who lost their job in Kentucky was pretty screwed absent the congressional enhancement. Could it have been more targeted? Perhaps? I haven't studied the issue.

Oh yeah, the guy in Kentucky making 4.30 on unemployment is pulling in just under $9k annually. I'd be looking to sell my Carmina collection if I found myself in that impossible circumstance.

 

[stephenaf2003]

No, that really wasn't the case. The combination of federal unemployment and state unemployment amounted to an annualized pay rate of $41k-$45k. Employees in the food service industry (I'm making this assumption by piecing together tidbits from his post, so I could be wrong) on average make less than this.

I think your being quite generous with your calculations, for most it’s was more like $30-$35,000 a year as most on qualified for the $600 a week. I have a niece that’s a food service manager, and only qualified for that amount, her situation was quite typical of most people. Which is still quite laughable as a living wage.

 

[007Bond]

"Insane" to give unemployed people in a pandemic a stipend so they don't lose their home/ starve/ have money to keep the heat on. Because... low income earners don't have bills to pay/family to feed/etc. like people who were able to keep their high paying jobs. Sure.

Good conversation that is now over.

You are to hot headed to read my post No where did I say not to give unemployed people a stipend.

What I said is that the stipend should not have been a fixed amount and been a percentage of your original pay.

Read what I posted again after you chill out.

I even gave examples but let me go over it again.

Current plan everyone on UI gets $300 extra per week no matter what. I said it should have been X% whatever that is even say 50% so you make $200 a week you get an extra $100 a week you make $500 a week you get an extra $250 a week.

So I Never Ever said that people on unemployment should not get anything. I clearly said it should have been a percentage and not a fixed number.

Yes and for sure on the original plan of fixed $600 to everyone no matter original pay rate I think it is insane.

Worker A who was making $10 per hour so total $400 a week now gets to take home $1000 per week. You see this is 2.5 times his original take home pay yes insane.
Worker B who was making $30 per hour so total $1200 is now taking home $1800 per week.
How is this fair??? why does worker B not also get to take home 2.5 times his original pay??? Why not??? He has bills too probably more bills and same chance of losing that roof over his family.

Should have been a percentage like I said say 50%.
Worker A who was making $10 per hour so total $400 a week now gets to take home $600 per week.
Worker B who was making $30 per hour so total $1200 is now taking home $1800 per week.

The more you make the more you get this is fair and encourages everyone at any level to get back to work while also helping them out in a time of need.

 

[jischwar]

I think your being quite generous with your calculations, for most it’s was more like $30-$35,000 a year as most on qualified for the $600 a week. I have a niece that’s a food service manager, and only qualified for that amount, her situation was quite typical of most people. Which is still quite laughable as a living wage.

Well don't forget that the $600 was in addition to state unemployment. Even the state that pays the lowest (MS) it's still an additional $235 week

 

[stephenaf2003]

"People getting that stipend were some of the lowest wage earners in the US "

This is a false statement the $600 and now the $300 is being given to Everyone on unemployment from min wage to hundreds of thousands. Completely does not depend on your original pay. So if you were in some state with $5 min wage or you were in NYC taking home 300k you got your unemployment plus the $600 or now the $300.

So what is more true is if you were one of the people making low wage you really did not want to go back to work.

But even if you were say making $25 per hour most states you would take home about $600ish a week now the gove gives your another $600 you are mostly double pay this is why most no one wanted to go back.

BTW this info I posted can easy be verified on any State unemployment site.

I’d say for most the reasons they didn’t want to go back was, we were in a pandemic.

 

[Neville Southall]

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