Bourbon.

[bdeuce22]

Not all for me. 2 different barrel picks for a store near me. OBSO and OESO.

 

[ama]

^ Tippins?

 

[bdeuce22]



^ Tippins?

Si, señor.

 

[indesertum]

Went to a random liquor store in brooklyn and a distiller of a new craft distillery in brooklyn was doing tastings of his bourbon. $45 for a 375 ml of a six month old bourbon aged in small barrels. He kept trying to dodge the question of aging and provenance. He also kept saying how his customers loved it and one guy already bought 3 bottles.

It was surprisingly oaky for a 6 month yo but still pretty harsh and I'd rather drink like bonded grand old dad or something. I didn't even realize there's no age requirement for bourbon only for straight bourbon and bonded bourbon

 

[Bhowie]

**** upstart distillers.

 

[NewYorkIslander]

I feel bad for them. They are really up against it big time. The big guys have such a huge head start...I picked up a couple of those Rhode Island Single Malts yesterday when I was out there...curious to try them.

 

[Van Veen]

The problem is that they need to figure out ways to cut corners with aging, and it's normally very obvious (at least to regular whiskey drinkers, and not hipsters who think anything "locavore" is better no matter what).

 

[indesertum]

you can't cut corners with age

all these companies trying to create older whiskeys simply by trying to extract more wood phenols don't understand oak phenols isn't all there is to aging. you can have a oaky product that still tastes too harsh and unbalanced

 

[Gibonius]

It's a tough industry for obvious reasons. Seems like a lot of these guys are trying to do gins and white dogs to keep product moving while they age. Some of the gins are interesting but always feel really overpriced. I really don't get why anybody is going to pay $40+ for white dog, "artisinal" or not. Even the decent aged products tend to be 50% more expensive than their quality tier, and I'm really not about to spend $50 on more or less decent whiskey just to give a new guy a leg up.

There's a local VA distiller that I wanted to like, but the rye was just too thin and flat. I should have known when they were hyping the "organic grain" that it wasn't going to be great.

The only "artisan" distiller that I've really liked and felt like a decent pricepoint was Corsair.

 

[NewYorkIslander]

The funniest **** is Widow Jane selling non-GMO corn 375ml for $125. Wild Turkey and Four Roses both use non GMO corn, barrel at cask strength for some, and charge a hell of a lot less. Some people prefer to be ignorant and think they're drinking GREAT stuff. I find the same with guys who DO know...with dusties. I used to be one of them. Sure its rare, sure its cool, sure its historical, but most of the stuff produced today is just head and shoulders better than that mid shelf stuff that people go nuts for. Having said that, i do love the 86 proof OGD from ND. Really is tasty stuff and very creamy, unlike most stuff on the market today.

Been getting into these lately...

The half empty is from the WT Gift Shop for their opening, one is a KY Liquor Store, the other is a Julios pick....all neighboring barrels.

 

[indesertum]

same here. i'm not paying you $50 for a 375 of white dog or 6 month old bourbon.

i do like some of these gins coming out tho. barr hill i quite like. has a strong honey flavor that is kind of nice. need to expand my gin knowledge


is the single barrel russels reserve good? its not cask strength right? just high proof?

 

[NewYorkIslander]

The private picks are fantastic...110 proof.

 

[JohnGalt]

 

[joelscott7]

My thought on the newer distillers is that they need to make their juice and let it age while working other jobs. I feel like these companies feel as if they deserve to make money, even before they have earned it. This bothers me as everyone else has to earn their stripes.
I have heard really good things about russels reserve and will be looking for it in the future.

I had not seen that Four Roses Secretariat before. Looks good. Let us know what you think when you open it.

 

[indesertum]

it's really good. i wish i had a bottle