Archibald London Hand Welted Shoes - preorder issues, discussion,and resolution.

[dieworkwear]

me when i realize my investments are in GYW shoes

 

[JFWR]

me when i realize my investments are in GYW shoes

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Are bespoke shoes the new stonks?

 

[upsett1_spaghett1]

Are bespoke shoes the new stonks?

bespoke shoes > doge

 

[Wild Strawberry Rabbit]

Later, I found out that my impressions were wildly off base, as the leather showed its true colours after only moderate wear. I can't really blame Archibald here, though, because Archibald did not guarantee amazing leather quality.

They stated several times, that leather they use is the highest grade leather, used only in bespoke shoemaking.

Look, I don't think you're a bad person because of this or anything. I'm saying this is the natural danger of allowing people on this forum to get freebies in exchange for reviews. A couple of other people here have done the same. I think it's a bad thing to have happen on this board. If people want things to be reviewed, they should send the items to a tailor or cobbler, and have that person do a teardown. People who have direct experience with the product (paying customers) can also chime in with their experiences.

While I agree that "freebies" usually will lead to review that is not objective, I think that majority of people who paid a considerable amount of money for the product will also be biased and will try to speak well of the product, just to justify their purchase and not feel like they suffered a loss. In general I find majority of forum reviews (freebies or not) useless.

 

[dieworkwear]

While I agree that "freebies" usually will lead to review that is not objective, I think that majority of people who paid a considerable amount of money for the product will also be biased and will try to speak well of the product, just to justify their purchase and not feel like they suffered a loss. In general I find majority of forum reviews (freebies or not) useless.

I agree with this. I think this is especially true of certain items. The higher up you go on the price scale, the more likely people are coming here just to brag or flex. People in the EG thread are mostly just putting themselves on the back for their purchaess. People in the Meemin thread freak out over every little scuff on shoes they will eventually drag on the ground.

I think JefferyD put it well a few years ago when he said bespoke customers come here to brag. Indochino customers come here to find out if their suit fits.

Personally don't care for "review culture." I don't really get the obsession with this kind of analytical framework for fashion. Would rather hear stories. Also perfectly fine with people just getting excited about things. Or people sharing ideas on how to wear things. But this analytical breakdown about construction quality often leaves me cold.

 

[JFWR]

They stated several times, that leather they use is the highest grade leather, used only in bespoke shoemaking.

A general claim is not falsified with one instance to the contrary.

For all I know, my leather was just a luck of the draw situation. If it was continuously bad quality, then I suspect the problem is serious, but until then what can I judge this on?

Even people who buy John Lobb and Edward Green regularly are eventually going to find a pair that will not meet their exacting standards of leather quality. Does this mean that these companies use bad leather in the main? No, as every calf is different, and as a result, there is an expectation that not all quality will be the same.

I can't say definitely that Archibald of London uses bad leather because my shoes look like **** after being worn once.

 

[Verrihappy]

Amazing how a free pair of tacky, crappy shoes can cloud and colour the judgment and reasoning of a sane person.

 

[JFWR]

Amazing what a free pair of crappy shoes can cloud and colour the judgment and reasoning of a sane person.

Would you like to point out the flaw in reasoning or are you going to hide behind what you believe counts as wit?

I think I've been up front about getting fooled. What am I saying that is inaccurate right now?

 

[taxgenius]

A general claim is not falsified with one instance to the contrary.

For all I know, my leather was just a luck of the draw situation. If it was continuously bad quality, then I suspect the problem is serious, but until then what can I judge this on?

Even people who buy John Lobb and Edward Green regularly are eventually going to find a pair that will not meet their exacting standards of leather quality. Does this mean that these companies use bad leather in the main? No, as every calf is different, and as a result, there is an expectation that not all quality will be the same.

I can't say definitely that Archibald of London uses bad leather because my shoes look like **** after being worn once.

Then how can you recommend their shoes based on your sample? Maybe your pair was awesome just by luck?

 

[clee1982]

They stated several times, that leather they use is the highest grade leather, used only in bespoke shoemaking.



While I agree that "freebies" usually will lead to review that is not objective, I think that majority of people who paid a considerable amount of money for the product will also be biased and will try to speak well of the product, just to justify their purchase and not feel like they suffered a loss. In general I find majority of forum reviews (freebies or not) useless.

I think a lot of the time people probably just decide not to talk about it rather than write bad review too.

 

[clee1982]

It’s fine. She knows she married a weirdo. I got way stranger looks pulling a shoe apart in our den.

well my wife’s point would be more in the “if you got time why aren’t you teaching the soon to be 4 years old some math...”

though I did got the shivering in my back when I was shining my shoe last time and my daughter start counting how many shoes there are (and she counts each not a pair, was just about to report to mommy before I make sure I get her to adjust to count a pair)

 

[tropics]

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just waiting on the #menswear NFTs. Now you have a chance to own your very own picture of someone else’s bespoke shoes.

I’m going to package this thread as an NFT and sell it for $15,000 along with my stock of tipp-exed non-handwelted shoes.

 

[mhip]

People in the Meemin thread freak out over every little scuff on shoes they will eventually drag on the ground.

( raises hand )...

 

[JFWR]

Then how can you recommend their shoes based on your sample? Maybe your pair was awesome just by luck?

Generally there are distinctions between things like craftsmanship that are common across most instances.

I'll say this: the fact the leather turned to **** in an hour is bad. (Obviously)

I just can't say "Archibald of London only uses bad leather" as this could be aberrant. Just as sometimes there is just a botched shoe.

If everyone is experiencing this, that would be bad.

Archibald said they'd accept a shoe like mine to be sent back and I'd do so. The question is would I get better? Not sure.

 

[JohnMRobie]

Update: Knife + Shoe time