TyCooN
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You have a long winded response begging me to explain where Floyd fucked up, despite ianGP not requesting it. Your post is fueled by a need to retaliate, which suggests a heavy emotional involvement towards manny.
Then you mention how manny was robbed but conveniently make no mention of the major robbery he pulled over Marquez.
Your actions lead me to believe you're just as biased despite proclaiming otherwise. Only difference is unlike me, you struggle to stomach being biased. Being perceived as neutral is of importance to you. To me it has little value.
If you read it closely, he puts down manny's opposition in recent years. Fighters are primarily valued based off who they beat and their skills.
Something tells me if I analyzed manny's recent opposition like ter did, you would be crying and not praising me.
Excess neutrality can result in horribly inaccurate predictions. Some of the best boxing analyst appear terribly biased. Then after the fight happens people shut up in awe at how accurate they are.
If I think someone will win, I'll say it straight to your face. I don't dilute my predictions by sugar coating it for the sake of a neutral appearance. **** that
Larger media platforms stay sucking that foo off. It only puts **** into equilibrium when outspoken Floyd fans voice up. You're so accustomed to people taking it easy on manny that it angers you when someone is harsh, even if what they're stating is accurate.
Sugar Ray Robinson, GREATEST BOXER OF ALL TIME = Beat his wife so hard she suffered at least one miscarriage
Muhammad Ali, the athlete who gets his *********** by 99% of the population = Smacked his wife or gf because she wouldn't wear what he told her to
Floyd = you're already familiar with him breaking the law
Sugar Ray Leonard = also beat his wife
Manny Pacquiao = had a child out of wedlock with a prostitute while he was married. Denies all responsibility and is a deadbeat father to the kid
Joe Louis, considered an American hero = Beat his woman for disobeying him
etc
Give me a list of your top 10 favorite fighters, and there's bound to be at least one 'bad person'.
If you want my opinion, I prefer the guys who openly break the 'rules'. Simply put a Floyd Mayweather, Mike Tyson, Jack Johnson, etc is more honest about who they are.
Some people prefer a sugar coated lie and can stomach guys like manny, Sugar Ray Leonard, Oscar de La Hoya, etc. Personally, that's not for me.
Obviously it angers me that manny shied away from fighting Floyd until now when he's in dire need of a huge payday due to tax issues. Floyd also fucked up in the past when he went on vacation, but he has fought the better opposition in recent years.
I'm indifferent towards how horrible these guys might be as people. It's not like I know them personally and deal with em on a day to day basis.
As for the media, I understand why they blow manny and encourage casual fans to do so also. People love an underdog story. Personally, being perceived as an underdog in alone by itself doesn't garner my sympathy. No man chooses to have disadvantaged circumstances.
The media is strange. Politicians are known for misleading people by telling them what they want to hear. Somehow, manny is exempt from this and viewed as a completely honest guy.
Last but not least HBO was full of **** and tried to fool the public into believing that manny didn't get his ass kicked by Marquez the 3rd time around.
That's all for today. I want to minimize the long posts
You want to know why. Because the man requesting information specifically asked how did manny **** up.
You have a long winded response begging me to explain where Floyd fucked up, despite ianGP not requesting it. Your post is fueled by a need to retaliate, which suggests a heavy emotional involvement towards manny.
Then you mention how manny was robbed but conveniently make no mention of the major robbery he pulled over Marquez.
Your actions lead me to believe you're just as biased despite proclaiming otherwise. Only difference is unlike me, you struggle to stomach being biased. Being perceived as neutral is of importance to you. To me it has little value.
It seems your perception of me is heavily coloring your thoughts. Ter's post was harsher than mines.
If you read it closely, he puts down manny's opposition in recent years. Fighters are primarily valued based off who they beat and their skills.
Something tells me if I analyzed manny's recent opposition like ter did, you would be crying and not praising me.
If sounding biased is the price of accuracy, it's a price I'm willing to pay.
Excess neutrality can result in horribly inaccurate predictions. Some of the best boxing analyst appear terribly biased. Then after the fight happens people shut up in awe at how accurate they are.
If I think someone will win, I'll say it straight to your face. I don't dilute my predictions by sugar coating it for the sake of a neutral appearance. **** that
Yes, small time media outlets that only a handful of guys read.
Larger media platforms stay sucking that foo off. It only puts **** into equilibrium when outspoken Floyd fans voice up. You're so accustomed to people taking it easy on manny that it angers you when someone is harsh, even if what they're stating is accurate.
If we took morality into consideration when it comes to supporting boxers, we'd limited to a selection that EXCLUDES THE VERY BEST.
Sugar Ray Robinson, GREATEST BOXER OF ALL TIME = Beat his wife so hard she suffered at least one miscarriage
Muhammad Ali, the athlete who gets his *********** by 99% of the population = Smacked his wife or gf because she wouldn't wear what he told her to
Floyd = you're already familiar with him breaking the law
Sugar Ray Leonard = also beat his wife
Manny Pacquiao = had a child out of wedlock with a prostitute while he was married. Denies all responsibility and is a deadbeat father to the kid
Joe Louis, considered an American hero = Beat his woman for disobeying him
etc
Give me a list of your top 10 favorite fighters, and there's bound to be at least one 'bad person'.
If you want my opinion, I prefer the guys who openly break the 'rules'. Simply put a Floyd Mayweather, Mike Tyson, Jack Johnson, etc is more honest about who they are.
Some people prefer a sugar coated lie and can stomach guys like manny, Sugar Ray Leonard, Oscar de La Hoya, etc. Personally, that's not for me.
I dislike guys who put on a saint act when they have a fair share of dirt themselves. That's hypocritical and fake. It's like the priest who portrays himself to be a righteous ol holy one despite secretly jerking little boys off.
Obviously it angers me that manny shied away from fighting Floyd until now when he's in dire need of a huge payday due to tax issues. Floyd also fucked up in the past when he went on vacation, but he has fought the better opposition in recent years.
I'm indifferent towards how horrible these guys might be as people. It's not like I know them personally and deal with em on a day to day basis.
As for the media, I understand why they blow manny and encourage casual fans to do so also. People love an underdog story. Personally, being perceived as an underdog in alone by itself doesn't garner my sympathy. No man chooses to have disadvantaged circumstances.
The media is strange. Politicians are known for misleading people by telling them what they want to hear. Somehow, manny is exempt from this and viewed as a completely honest guy.
Last but not least HBO was full of **** and tried to fool the public into believing that manny didn't get his ass kicked by Marquez the 3rd time around.
That's all for today. I want to minimize the long posts
you just make the thread unreadable once the subject becomes Manny vs Floyd while staying civil for the most part on other matter relating to boxing that made the thread fun in the beginning. 
