The What Are You Wearing Today (WAYWT) Discussion Thread, Part II

[gettoasty]

One additional factor is that this forum is so torturous to use these days (on an iPhone) with the pop up ads, pages crashing, etc and god help you if you ‘pinch’ a photo to make it bigger.

Can’t count how many times I’ve been in the middle of constructing a post / reply and the page crashes mid post, losing my text. Often I just think ‘f*ck it’ and don’t bother retrying. If other people are doing the same that will contribute to the slower forum traffic.

You don’t want to go on a Caribbean cruise??

 

[Coldsnap]

For some of us heads who have been around forever, you sort of need to talk less and less about clothes and fashion the more you know. At some point I just started seeing the matrix of fashion and until there's a massive leap in fabric technology everything is just a reference of everything prior and the history of contemporary fashion is extremely young. Similar to contemporary art and literature.

Not to say I'm less passionate about this stuff, I'm probably more so than ever, but I just have less and less to say now adays. But given it's enduring interest so far I'll always be interested in this stuff and hope to die looking like I didn't know a single thing about fashion.

 

[MickeyPunch]

I nearly gave up until someone on here recommended using Brave browser with ad blocking. SF works well on iOS finally.

You’re contributing to the demise of this forum though, unless you’be bought a subscription.

Yeah it’s got other ways of generating income (affiliated brands, and the aforementioned subscriptions, maybe others?), and in an ideal world those would be enough to pay for the infrastracture and generate enough profit for the owner to be willing to keep the lights on, but most likely aren’t.

Ads suck. They truly do. And ad-supported sites got too greedy (not SF, I’ve seen far worse).

But the alternative is worse, a paywall. We’re headed to a paywalled Internet in a few years, and it makes me sad. Most of us here have cushy jobs and drop $$$ on **** we don’t really need, so a couple of additional monthly subscriptions (on top of the ones we already have) will be ok, but many people around the world will lose access to news and other important information because they won’t be able to pay for it.

And I’m not talking about traditional news outlets only, but things like YouTube: it’s got a wealth of information. People act as it’s a divine right and refuse to see the ads and install an adblocker. But in a few years it’ll likely be subscription-only. Which will hurt content creators too, because where does the money come from?

 

[zissou]

You’re contributing to the demise of this forum though, unless you’be bought a subscription.

Yeah it’s got other ways of generating income (affiliated brands, and the aforementioned subscriptions, maybe others?), and in an ideal world those would be enough to pay for the infrastracture and generate enough profit for the owner to be willing to keep the lights on, but most likely aren’t.

Ads suck. They truly do. And ad-supported sites got too greedy (not SF, I’ve seen far worse).

But the alternative is worse, a paywall. We’re headed to a paywalled Internet in a few years, and it makes me sad. Most of us here have cushy jobs and drop $$$ on **** we don’t really need, so a couple of additional monthly subscriptions (on top of the ones we already have) will be ok, but many people around the world will lose access to news and other important information because they won’t be able to pay for it.

And I’m not talking about traditional news outlets only, but things like YouTube: it’s got a wealth of information. People act as it’s a divine right and refuse to see the ads and install an adblocker. But in a few years it’ll likely be subscription-only. Which will hurt content creators too, because where does the money come from?

I can see your point in theory. But, SF literally doesn’t function when using Chrome or Safari in iOS (I wouldn’t be surprised if this was contributing to the decline in users). So my alternative is to just not use the site. Which is better for SF? Plus, I never click on the ads on purpose as the vast majority aren’t even relevant to me.

 

[kevenmee]

You’re contributing to the demise of this forum though, unless you’be bought a subscription.

Yeah it’s got other ways of generating income (affiliated brands, and the aforementioned subscriptions, maybe others?), and in an ideal world those would be enough to pay for the infrastracture and generate enough profit for the owner to be willing to keep the lights on, but most likely aren’t.

Ads suck. They truly do. And ad-supported sites got too greedy (not SF, I’ve seen far worse).

But the alternative is worse, a paywall. We’re headed to a paywalled Internet in a few years, and it makes me sad. Most of us here have cushy jobs and drop $$$ on **** we don’t really need, so a couple of additional monthly subscriptions (on top of the ones we already have) will be ok, but many people around the world will lose access to news and other important information because they won’t be able to pay for it.

And I’m not talking about traditional news outlets only, but things like YouTube: it’s got a wealth of information. People act as it’s a divine right and refuse to see the ads and install an adblocker. But in a few years it’ll likely be subscription-only. Which will hurt content creators too, because where does the money come from?

Why is on the consumer to contribute, and not on the business to provide a better experience and keep up with the times? It's not like we don't want to use SF, it's just been pretty much the exact same as it was in 2010 years ago.

 

[mhip]

I can see your point in theory. But, SF literally doesn’t function when using Chrome or Safari in iOS (I wouldn’t be surprised if this was contributing to the decline in users). So my alternative is to just not use the site. Which is better for SF? Plus, I never click on the ads on purpose as the vast majority aren’t even relevant to me.

Exactly...
It's the side-loading, delayed loading and pop ups that I won't deal with.
Bring up a web-site to read a story, and as soon as you start reading, the page jumps all over the place as delayed ad after delayed ad loads. Also, this "click here to read more" which is just this insidious demon to get one more click.
The story or news is a complete afterthought.
If it were just static ad banners along the side, I could care less.

 

[RedVelvetWounds]

If it were just static ad banners along the side, I could care less.

Slightly relevant fact: I am still a member of a forum which has been "dead" for at least 10 years. The admins just keep it running because the ads from both the original website and the forum still bring in enough money. It's one of those old forums with ad banners on the side.

 

[LinePlaneVolume]

Jacket: Doppiaa
Shirt: Armor Lux
Trousers: Gustin
Shoes: Moonstar x Studio Nicholson
Bag: R.E. Load
Scent: Sartorial

 

[gettoasty]

Even on my $3000 desktop this website starting to load like crap

 

[Indole]

the ad supported model isn't forever. there's been more than a few reports in the last year indicating google and facebook clickthrough numbers are largely bogus and once that catches up to them it'll be over for anywhere that doesn't have a strong subscription base anyway.

 

[MickeyPunch]

It’s always easy to find some sort of justification to use an ad blocker. And I pretty much started my previous message saying that many (most?) ad-funded websites are to blame as they got greedy. They mostly brought this upon themselves.

However I do think that using ad blockers is not ethical, as simple as that. If you like a site and keep visiting it, you should support it. You don’t like it without an ad blocker? The honest option is to stop visiting it. I know it’s a controversial opinion.

When you visit Styleforum with an ad blocker, it’s not just that they’re not getting anything from you via ad impressions, you’re costing them money in infra costs (CDN bandwidth, hardware, etc.). To be frank in a forum it’s slightly different because we’re also (unpaid) content creators so potentially the forum might still get something from you if you create content that others enjoy, but obviously if everyone used an ad blocker (not even everyone, just above a certain %), it all falls apart and it’s not a viable business. SF no more.

Again, when in a few years virtually everything is paywalled behind a monthly subscription (at least everything that can survive on a paid subscription model, SF is not one of those) I’m sure the SF crowd will be fine spending a few extra bucks a month. But as I said, I worry that many people without the same resources will lose access to information (news, learning material much of which is in sites like YouTube, etc) and the gap will widen. Ads suck but they’re more democratic, for the lack of a better word.

BTW I don’t want to keep derailing this thread, this would be more fitting in the random thoughts one anyway.

 

[StanleyVanBuren]

my $3000 desktop

Spoiler: REVENUE GENERATION IN PROGRESS

i'm creating content!

 

[verver]

neat

Spoiler: March 31, 2012

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Oxford button downs haven’t changed in 12 yrs

 

[AlexanderTG]

Rail-ridin’ in Kyoto.

Geoffrey B Small
Everlane (tee)
Paul Harnden (bag and trousers)
Guidi

 

[nahneun]

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Rail-ridin’ in Kyoto.

Geoffrey B Small
Everlane (tee)
Paul Harnden (bag and trousers)
Guidi

can you show more pictures of the harnden bag