The Watch Appreciation Thread - Part two (Rolex, Patek Philippe, Audemars Piguet, Jaeger LeCoultre,

[venessian]

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i get the critique that the margin of the left subdial is misspent, here's another look with that margin reclaimed by the main dial which gets you a bigger bite of numbers, the asymmetry doesn't much bug me (even so on a dress watch!) as i think it develops a hierarchy along with the hands treatment

But that iteration to me is "6 of one/half-dozen of the other" vis a vis the original. The dials will yes be slightly (annoyingly so?) different sizes, which you and I and others might still accept (esp. if the PR dial was not on axis with the calendar dial but rather off-axis as a lot of other (Lange, RDM, etc) beautiful and coherent dials posted in the past few pages do).

However, the visible portion of the 8 and 10 being larger than the visible portion of the 2 and 4 seems even more odd to me than the original layout, as it would then result in 3 different sizes (the 2 and 4 being cut in half, the 8 being barely whole, and the 10 basically 3/4) for the 4 numerals around the 2 sub-dials. Also, the tangents of the dials relative to center and chapter ring/bezel end up all over the place.

Here without my added red notations. I don't know...you may be right. It looks a little better than I thought, especially of course if the 10 was whole too.

Nonetheless I prefer the same size dials, with symmetrically cut 4 numerals, but...a non-starter for me either way because I would just not buy cut numerals, even printed ones. Especially because Dornbluth has beautiful (the same font and size) applied numerals, which I think are great and worth the upgrade, but look really sad when chopped.

For me, they should have done the most simple thing, laid out 2 same-size circles, and moved on from there.

 

[sinnedk]

Nevermind

 

[TheFoo]

Guys curious, what does this white gold Patek retail for? Does Patek show MSRP prices anywhere? I never looked

2019 Patek Philippe 18k Nautilus 5712G-001 Grey Dial with Box & Papers Modern Patek Philippe Watch, Availability: Sold,

2019 Patek Philippe 18k Nautilus 5712G-001 Grey Dial with Box & Papers Modern Patek Philippe Watch, Availability: Sold,

www.hqmilton.com

The have the list prices on the company website. It’s $49,910.

Patek Philippe | Nautilus Collection | Luxury Sport Watches

Discover Nautilus, our collection of elegant and luxury sport watches with a rounded octagonal face, launched in 1976. Browse all men and women models today.

www.patek.com

 

[sinnedk]

?‍♂️ I realized that after I posted

 

[double00]

@venessian that is rad, i committed my smudgery on apple preview haha but you finessed dat modeling

*observed incident* for lack of a better term is a big part of my personal oeuvre (along with the typical-and-good environmental context, program etc.) so i am v comfy exploring the what-ifs of 3 diff numeral solutions if i suspect it may add up in service of concept. the dial ends up sportier here imo

i think i agree re: off-axis, fun stuff, just squeezing dat balloon ha

 

[DG123]

This Rolex OP model 116000 has been on my wrist every day for nearly eleven years

 

[TAFJIR]

Not to veer off topic—I love a good occluded numeral discussion as much as the next guy—but I’ve been meaning to ask the group, any thoughts on this new release from RL/The Rake?

I get that it’s not even in the same category as the more classic timepieces, but there’s something about the whimsical nature of it that calls out to me. Think it’d be a fun watch to add to the rotation instead of the GSs I typically wear. Thoughts from the crowd?

https://therake.com/ralph-lauren-bearfoot-negroni-bear-watch.html

 

[venessian]

@venessian that is rad, i committed my smudgery on apple preview haha but you finessed dat modeling

*observed incident* for lack of a better term is a big part of my personal oeuvre (along with the typical-and-good environmental context, program etc.) so i am v comfy exploring the what-ifs of 3 diff numeral solutions if i suspect it may add up in service of concept. the dial ends up sportier here imo

i think i agree re: off-axis, fun stuff, just squeezing dat balloon ha

*observed incident* is interesting.

Perhaps along those lines, I worked once on a building for a very creative, really great advertising executive/company in Germany. His main "rule" in design (graphic or in the project we were doing, anything really) was, "To elicit real interest, real exploration, real impact, you always need a quiet but strong 'irritant'. But never a hammer." Pretty amazing guy in many regards.

The Dornbluth 99.5 and some other watches here are not really that imo; they go way past the "quiet or even subliminal irritant" aspect.

 

[venessian]

This Rolex OP model 116000 has been on my wrist every day for nearly eleven years
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Exquisite.
I hope you have it on your wrist for more multiples of 11 years. ?

 

[chocomallo]

Patek Philippe - Think I over-polished my own Calatrava — help!!!

Watchprosite- I was taking photos of my 5296 recently and noticed an area of the bezel (between 12 and 3 o’clock) that I had previously hand-polished to get rid of some minor scratches now appears slightly rounded-off at the edges and maybe even lower in height as well. I used a Sunshine cloth...

www.watchprosite.com

TheFoo, I am just curious what your overall view on watch wear is. You won't buy a watch with any shop wear (see prior posts about the 5170 and why you had the AD send you the Daytona instead of waiting a few days to pick up). But then you immediately had LAWW brush the watch, so should a little shop wear matter?

Then you said you let your son suck on your 5296 (in reference to the guy whose dog ate his Patek (sorry I forgot who posted that)), but you made the post linked above about how you overpolished it to get some minor scratches out and you are heart broken. Even considering a re-case if that what it takes.

You also posted about wanting to get the original ceramic IWC pilot watch (I don't know the model), but you decided against a used model because IWC wouldn't replace the case.

What is the deal? This is an honest question and I have no intention to enrage you given our past exchanges. You are very deliberate and always have a reason, so I would appreciate to understand you stance. Cheers!

By the way, are you sure the bezel and mid-case are one piece? Not a Patek, but I badly scratched the bezel on a Chopard and was convinced it was a one piece bezel and mid-case. But it was actually two pieces. Still cost a fortune to replace, though.

 

[radicaldog]

Symmetry is overrated:

For sure, but asymmetry is hard to do. Some successful examples, in my view:

I don't even mind the occluded numerals on this one:

And the most obvious example:

 

[mebiuspower]

^That's why I always dislike 6/9/12 o'clock subdial chronos.

Symmetry is even harder with date and PR.

 

[montecristo#2]

If I had to pick just two to live with from the current collection (god forbid):

 

[Ambulance Chaser]

Here's a watch with all kinds of design "flaws." I think it's one of the most beautiful Pateks ever.

 

[mebiuspower]

Once you see it...