The Ultimate Vass (Footwear) Thread (Pictures, reviews, sizing, etc...)

[justinkapur]



How do you know how well they age if you only have them for a short time?

And regarding creases, it might or might not be a fit "problem" as all RTW shoes will have fit problems one way or the other. And sometimes even bespoke shoes will have fit problems...

Short time = 6 months for me. I know theres a lot of folks who have owned shell for longer than I have. From the 3 pairs I do own and purchased relatively close together I do like the way they have developed. I am not saying I am an expert by any means

 

[Cal135]



Its hard to say but to me it looks like the fit of those doesnt seem to work for you. I mean I only have a few pairs of cordovan but my creasing is not as bad as yours are. I think my cordovans have aged wonderfully and its been a short time since I have had them and I love them.

In reality the creasing is not as bad as seen on the picture, but much worse than creasing on any of my calf shoes. These shoes are about five years old, and in terms of patina and general aging, cordovan is miles behind of good calf.

In general there appear to be a small size difference between calf and cordovan, and also between different models (especially true between open and closed lacing). All my U-lasted shoes are in size 41, and if I would be ordering another pair in cordovan I would go for 0.5 smaller. Also 360-Goyser stiching adds a little bit on the size, regardless of the leather.

 

[Swede66]



Yes, P2 has a low instep. So I was wandering whether F last would be fine. Are there any picture of Old English in F last in suede? Thanks.

Yet another "user perspective" picture of the suede OE F last.

 

[andreasky]



Yet another "user perspective" picture of the suede OE F last.

I like oxford in suede a lot. I can see some fading on the suede colour (close to the stitching on the toe tip) where there are the creases of the suede. Can you hide the fading with a brush?

 

[Swede66]



I like oxford in suede a lot. I can see some fading on the suede colour (close to the stitching on the toe tip) where there are the creases of the suede. Can you hide the fading with a brush?

Sure, even with the finger. It isn't color fading, it's the direction of the nap that changes (if that is understandable ) where it creases.

 

[andreasky]



Sure, even with the finger. It isn't color fading, it's the direction of the nap that changes (if that is understandable ) where it creases.

Thanks. Which kind of sole do these shoes have?

 

[Swede66]



Thanks. Which kind of sole do these shoes have?

Single leather sole.

 

[tcideneb]

Hi, can anyone advise the difference between the F and R last? What I am interested in knowing is, is the R more sleeker / narrower than the F? They both look the same in the catalogue.

Also same question as above between the Budapest last and 3636 last.

Thank you

 

[Slickman]

Yes, disregard the existence of the R and order almost every shoe on the F. You should only deviate from the F to the P2, and perhaps 3636 for chunky boots

 

[j ingevaldsson]



Hi, can anyone advise the difference between the F and R last? What I am interested in knowing is, is the R more sleeker / narrower than the F? They both look the same in the catalogue.

Also same question as above between the Budapest last and 3636 last.

Thank you

F is sleeker and more elegant than R, the latter is more traditional brittish styled.

The Budapester last is the original austro hungarian styled last, very round and with extremely high toe box. 3636 is a bit more sleek and with a lower toe box.

You can find more info here: http://shoegazingpunktse.blogspot.se/2012/10/kopguide-vass-shoes.html
Use the translation tool for preferred language.

 

[alloy13]

Hi, can anyone advise the difference between the F and R last? What I am interested in knowing is, is the R more sleeker / narrower than the F? They both look the same in the catalogue.

Also same question as above between the Budapest last and 3636 last.

Thank you

F is a very sharp round-toe. Sharp in its shape from the vamp to the toe box, and round in the shape of the toe tip.

R looks like the AE #5 last from pictures. But I only have experience with the F last, will never get the R last. So there's the bias.

 

[andreasky]



Single leather sole.

Thanks. I tried double to single sole. I imagine single sole is softer.
Do you wear them in rainy days? How does the leather sole perform?

 

[add911_11]



Thanks. I tried double to single sole. I imagine single sole is softer.
Do you wear them in rainy days? How does the leather sole perform?

Tapered sole is actaully reasonably flexible as well, it only takes one wear to get the shoe start up.
JR sole is the only RTW that I feel proper tough for heavy rain. A lovely sole.

 

[Swede66]



Thanks. I tried double to single sole. I imagine single sole is softer.
Do you wear them in rainy days? How does the leather sole perform?

Have so far only been out in an unexpected light shower, but I have other suede shoes that I've used plenty in rain. In my oppinion, suede handles rain better than calf does. The shoes are fairly new, but so far the sole appears to be very durable.

 

[Pliny]

Brown cordovan, U-last. I have 15 pairs of shoes/boots made by Vass. Three pairs in cordovan. I would recommend calf or grain instead of cordovan.