The SF Brazillian Jiujitsu Thread - fans, competitors, filthy casuals, all are welcome

[Clouseau]

So my 13 yo son (black gi) made his debut in BJJ. He has been practicing judo when he was a kid and is very interested with BJJ.
So you have now a white belt (well rather is father) aboard. I might ask you some questions in the future guys.

 

[razorfrazer]

So my 13 yo son (black gi) made his debut in BJJ. He has been practicing judo when he was a kid and is very interested with BJJ.
So you have now a white belt (well rather is father) aboard. I might ask you some questions in the future guys.

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Welcome to the team. Here's some tips !

1. Don't do the warmups if its decontextualized line drills. Finda gym that warms up with skillwork. Conditioning makes sense for a warmup, but I'de rather do that on my own .

2. All practice is live practice. Decompossed dead static drilling is largely a waste of time. if your gym is doing anything less than 70% live training I would find a new one.

3. Train more NoGi than Gi, Gi moves at a glacial pace and isn't regularily updated. Also, organizing around controlling a jacket can just be confusing when trying to navigate what really matters. Controlling a body with your body should be your priority. NoGi transfers more to Gi than anything else.


4. Focus on skills, NOT techniques. Skills and more importantly fundimentaal skills are what you need to work on , not what the community refers to as "Techniques". Its good to understand body mechanics, leverage, and the concept of offb alancing but putting too much into techniques will slow your progress. Instead focus on fundimental techniques or concepts. "Removing connections on you, Staying on top, using connections to destabilize your partners, segmenting the body, etc etc"

5. Competition is a tool for development, use it. Dont be a gym warrior.

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6. If your gym doesn't do leg attacks or reaping, just move on,

If you ever need help you can message me on here. I can provide frameworks or guidance.

 

[LA Guy]

I’m mostly in agreement on this if your son has the temperament to be a strong competitor. I feel though, having trained at a lot of gyms now, that the most important thing is to choose a gym that will keep you going in. That’s nearly completely the culture and the head instructors. Of course, this means a strong learning culture, which is what @razorfrazer is mostly talking about. But I think that especially when considering a kid, and a beginner, the most important thing is to keep them wanting to go back. I’d like an add my $0.02, which is that I think that situational sparring is important. So many, myself included, find themselves with overly asymmetrical games that are harder to correct at higher belt levels, because you were not made to fight in all common positions.

 

[razorfrazer]

I’m mostly in agreement on this if your son has the temperament to be a strong competitor. I feel though, having trained at a lot of gyms now, that the most important thing is to choose a gym that will keep you going in. That’s nearly completely the culture and the head instructors. Of course, this means a strong learning culture, which is what @razorfrazer is mostly talking about. But I think that especially when considering a kid, and a beginner, the most important thing is to keep them wanting to go back. I’d like an add my $0.02, which is that I think that situational sparring is important. So many, myself included, find themselves with overly asymmetrical games that are harder to correct at higher belt levels, because you were not made to fight in all common positions.

Dude to your last point about situation sparring … yes !!!! That is such a good point :

I’ll go even beyond that because yes situation sparring is very important but also using CLA “constraints led approach” with these starting positions is even more important. This forces you even more to find new skills and sometimes alternative paths in those positions. To build new skills on a player who already has good solutions sometimes you gotta take away some of their solutions .

 

[LA Guy]

Dude to your last point about situation sparring … yes !!!! That is such a good point :

I’ll go even beyond that because yes situation sparring is very important but also using CLA “constraints led approach” with these starting positions is even more important. This forces you even more to find new skills and sometimes alternative paths in those positions. To build new skills on a player who already has good solutions sometimes you gotta take away some of their solutions

Exactly. One teaching method that I use is to not allow the same submission twice in a row. If you say "You have to finish with a choke" when someone starts on the back, it can make the defensive player's task unrealistically easy. But the other way, they might be able to go to that A option once, but after that, they have to figure out new stuff, rather than just spamming the same attack. It's a more refined, imo, version of "You get better by beating up blue belts" in that you get to practice both offense and defense against people at your level who have the knowledge to defend or attack you, and you can't simply play for tricks.

 

[KotaB]

Howdy folks, been doing Jits since first of this year. At the point where I need to get more rash guards and shorts. What are some of yals preferred brands?

 

[admin]

No short recommendations from me because I am old and generally don't go to nogi. Most of my rash guards are AP/Shoyoroll because I am a hypebeast. I also have the B-Team Mexican Ground Karate rash because it's funny.

Howdy folks, been doing Jits since first of this year. At the point where I need to get more rash guards and shorts. What are some of yals preferred brands?

 

[LA Guy]

Howdy folks, been doing Jits since first of this year. At the point where I need to get more rash guards and shorts. What are some of yals preferred brands?

I use mostly Shoyoroll and Albino and Preto for rashguards as well. For shorts, I use Hayabusa MMA shorts, which are super rough, and Fuji spats, though I like the spongier vs. thinner fabric ones. I train in the gi maybe 95% of the time now, because I am in love with grips, but very much also because of all the combat sports we could have participated in, no gi BJJ is by far the least hygenic. And a lot of no gi guys are barbarians. PSA: please, unless you have no body hair, wear a rashguard to practice. I absolutely refuse to roll with 270 lb dudes with hairy chests, bellies, and backs. Sorry bro, you do you, but unless the session is guaranteed to give me Mica Galvao level skills, it's going to be a hard pass.

 

[KotaB]

Appreciate the recommendations fellas. I like the Hayabusa mma shorts as well. I like the Velcro closure. Never heard of Albino and Preto. Pretty cool looking gear.

 

[razorfrazer]

I use mostly Shoyoroll and Albino and Preto for rashguards as well. For shorts, I use Hayabusa MMA shorts, which are super rough, and Fuji spats, though I like the spongier vs. thinner fabric ones. I train in the gi maybe 95% of the time now, because I am in love with grips, but very much also because of all the combat sports we could have participated in, no gi BJJ is by far the least hygenic. And a lot of no gi guys are barbarians. PSA: please, unless you have no body hair, wear a rashguard to practice. I absolutely refuse to roll with 270 lb dudes with hairy chests, bellies, and backs. Sorry bro, you do you, but unless the session is guaranteed to give me Mica Galvao level skills, it's going to be a hard pass.

Nothing wrong with these recommendations. I kind of just buy whatever for NoGi stuff. I like VHTS personally not the best designs but the cuts and materials are way better than what SYR / AP are using.

To be completely honest, the best way to go NoGi is just an old T-shirt and shorts. Its unmatched can not be beat and ... it doesn't cost you anything extra ! Thats how I usually train. I have a closet full of like 80+ old designer tees that I just rotate into nogi .

I don't find NoGi guys to be any nastier than Gi guys. If you dont wash / replace your Gi's its just as nasty as not washing or replacing your NoGi attire.

The golden rule for me for not being smelly or full of staph is

1. Wash before practice
2. Wash after practice
3. Wash ALL your equipment after training don't let it sit.
4. Throw away any equipment that starts to smell or discolor.
5. Buy new athletic underwear often and throw away the old stuff. I personally get 5 packs of Lulus.

 

[razorfrazer]

Appreciate the recommendations fellas. I like the Hayabusa mma shorts as well. I like the Velcro closure. Never heard of Albino and Preto. Pretty cool looking gear.

Albino and preto / Shoyoroll used to have the best designs on the market. They were like lightyears ahead of everyone else back in the day. They brought that supreme energy and modern cuts into the space. Now a days their designs aren't nearly as good and everyone else has sort of caught up. The prices have also increased to near absurdity.

Again, just grab an old pair of shorts that arent too long. Any 5" black short will work good and look good.

 

[LA Guy]

Nothing wrong with these recommendations. I kind of just buy whatever for NoGi stuff. I like VHTS personally not the best designs but the cuts and materials are way better than what SYR / AP are using.

To be completely honest, the best way to go NoGi is just an old T-shirt and shorts. Its unmatched can not be beat and ... it doesn't cost you anything extra ! Thats how I usually train. I have a closet full of like 80+ old designer tees that I just rotate into nogi .

I don't find NoGi guys to be any nastier than Gi guys. If you dont wash / replace your Gi's its just as nasty as not washing or replacing your NoGi attire.

The golden rule for me for not being smelly or full of staph is

1. Wash before practice
2. Wash after practice
3. Wash ALL your equipment after training don't let it sit.
4. Throw away any equipment that starts to smell or discolor.
5. Buy new athletic underwear often and throw away the old stuff. I personally get 5 packs of Lulus.

Our gym requires that everyone wear a washed gi or washed no gi gear to train. I have maybe 10 rash guards and a dozen gis, and that’s more than enough for me to always have something fresh to put on. Also, yes, a shower immediately after practice is a 100% necessary. It’s not always enough. I got MRSA from a training partner maybe 15 years ago, when I resumed training the first time, and that was rough. Mostly, I just really dislike being sweat so over by a completely soaked dude. At least with the gi, the cotton absorbs most of that. I know that it’s just a personal preference.

In other news, Felipe Andrew is coming to our gym for a seminar. That guy is a beast. I’m wondering if in could defend against him for say, a minute. World Champion multiple times, about half my age, 40 lbs heavier. Could be rough.

 

[Clouseau]

So my son started one month and a half ago and he trains 3 or 4 times a week. Always in Gi. I just ordered him a Under Armour rash/tee to put under the Gi if he wants too. What BJJ Gi brand would you recommend, as he only has one and we wash it after every session but a second seems necessary soon. He likes black and sturdy ones, without too many writings.(He has a Venum).

 

[LA Guy]

So my son started one month and a half ago and he trains 3 or 4 times a week. Always in Gi. I just ordered him a Under Armour tee to put under the Gi if he wants too. What BJJ Gi brand would you recommend, as he only has one and we wash it after every session but a second seems necessary. He likes black ones, without too many writings.

I don’t know if they make them anymore, but I have a black on black Tatami Estilo gi that fits my frame really well. I wear an A2L, and am 175-180 lbs and 5’11”, for reference. You might be able to get them on sale as it’s a full model old, but I like them more than the new model.

 

[KotaB]

My gym is planning on competing at the ADCC Open April 12th here in Oklahoma. Apparently, this is the first time ADCC has come to our state. Pretty exciting stuff.