The Overcoat Thread

[clee1982]

why not just ask Edward Sexton directly, my past experience have been they can do certain small things

 

[WoolyLamb]

why not just ask Edward Sexton directly, my past experience have been they can do certain small things

Bra he passed

 

[clee1982]

I mean ES as a shop, Nina is doing lots of visit and she is definitely to happy to direct the shop if small tweak can be done

 

[Themistocles]

Does anyone own one of the newer Permanent Style balmacaans (~720 grams I believe) and not think it’s actually warm? If I’m wearing a just cotton sweater or shirt underneath it doesn’t feel warm, and the wind seems to rip through it regardless. If I’m really layered up (shirt, thick wool Irish wool sweater, maybe a scarf) then it seems ok, but honestly disappointed. Even more so with the new double breasted coat being described as a “true winter coat”. So is this supposed to be a dramatic fall/spring coat that the second you need to button it up you need a different coat? Coat looks great, but overall pretty disappointed in it as a winter coat. For context, I’m in Massachusetts and this winter has been colder and windier than last year so really putting this coat through its paces for the first time seriously.

 

[K. Nights]

Does anyone own one of the newer Permanent Style balmacaans (~720 grams I believe) and not think it’s actually warm? If I’m wearing a just cotton sweater or shirt underneath it doesn’t feel warm, and the wind seems to rip through it regardless. If I’m really layered up (shirt, thick wool Irish wool sweater, maybe a scarf) then it seems ok, but honestly disappointed. Even more so with the new double breasted coat being described as a “true winter coat”. So is this supposed to be a dramatic fall/spring coat that the second you need to button it up you need a different coat? Coat looks great, but overall pretty disappointed in it as a winter coat. For context, I’m in Massachusetts and this winter has been colder and windier than last year so really putting this coat through its paces for the first time seriously.

No experience with it, but tweed is a fairly open weave cloth so it doesn't block wind that well in my experience.
Also keep in mind that winters in the UK are a lot milder than in much of the United States, so a "true winter coat" to Simon may mean something different than it means to you.
To be honest, below a certain temperature there are few overcoats that will cut it and it's time to take out your down-filled parka.

 

[comrade]

No experience with it, but tweed is a fairly open weave cloth so it doesn't block wind that well in my experience.
Also keep in mind that winters in the UK are a lot milder than in much of the United States, so a "true winter coat" to Simon may mean something different than it means to you.
To be honest, below a certain temperature there are few overcoats that will cut it and it's time to take out your down-filled parka.

Remember , half of the Pilgrims died in MA during the first Winter.
Other than climate, disease, low resistance, etc probably took it's
toll. Nevertheless, when I stood on the commuter rail platform and then walked 4 blocks to my office in Chicago, I wore a 32 OZ (907 gram) British Warm , or an Invertere Melton greatcoat, or a down jacket. Wind Chill etc was a major multiplier. What works in frosty London may not measure up to the rigors of North America. Now, Scotland may be a more valid comparison.

 

[clee1982]

I lived in London for nearly 2 years in early 2010, their definition of decently cold is like 0C/32F, which well, is not very cold…

 

[St1X]

I have a few coats that are 720 gr/sqm and they are pretty warm at up to -10 C in Stockholm. It rarely gets colder here. However it's often is really windy here and those coats don't cut it anymore. I have to go for my parka. But I wore it 3-5 times in 5 years

 

[slows2k]

Does anyone own one of the newer Permanent Style balmacaans (~720 grams I believe) and not think it’s actually warm? If I’m wearing a just cotton sweater or shirt underneath it doesn’t feel warm, and the wind seems to rip through it regardless. If I’m really layered up (shirt, thick wool Irish wool sweater, maybe a scarf) then it seems ok, but honestly disappointed. Even more so with the new double breasted coat being described as a “true winter coat”. So is this supposed to be a dramatic fall/spring coat that the second you need to button it up you need a different coat? Coat looks great, but overall pretty disappointed in it as a winter coat. For context, I’m in Massachusetts and this winter has been colder and windier than last year so really putting this coat through its paces for the first time seriously.

I live in California and the coats are definitely warm enough for winters here, and we get down to freezing temps, but thats nowhere near NE and the upper midwest.

I always think of the scene in the John Adams miniseries where his son, JQA, is preparing to go to St. Petersburg and asks JA, "will it be very cold there?" and JA responds, "not for a NE man".

Gave me a reference for how cold it actually gets in that part of the US.

 

[WoolyLamb]

I live in California and the coats are definitely warm enough for winters here, and we get down to freezing temps, but thats nowhere near NE and the upper midwest.

I always think of the scene in the John Adams miniseries where his son, JAJ, is preparing to go to St. Petersburg and asks JA, "will it be very cold there?" and JA responds, "not for a NE man".

Gave me a reference for how cold it actually gets in that part of the US.

Cold and then there are the truly cold places in the middle of the country.

 

[Cause Moe]

... his son, JAJ

JQA.

 

[slows2k]

JQA.

Thx. I knew something felt off about what I used but it was too early in AM to search.

 

[slows2k]

Cold and then there are the truly cold places in the middle of the country.

As a native Californian who certainly has seen snow and freezing temps (everyone thinks its only like socal winters everywhere here, but it isn't) I still have literally no reference point for what it actually feels like when I talk to someone from Minnesota or thereabouts and they say like, "-20 with wind"

I just...don't even know what that could even feel like.

 

[ppk]

I live in California and the coats are definitely warm enough for winters here, and we get down to freezing temps, but thats nowhere near NE and the upper midwest.

I always think of the scene in the John Adams miniseries where his son, JQA, is preparing to go to St. Petersburg and asks JA, "will it be very cold there?" and JA responds, "not for a NE man".

Gave me a reference for how cold it actually gets in that part of the US.

Lived in Boston for 7 years and 2 of those near the Charles. Rarely encountered weather colder or windier.

 

[JohnMRobie]

As a native Californian who certainly has seen snow and freezing temps (everyone thinks its only like socal winters everywhere here, but it isn't) I still have literally no reference point for what it actually feels like when I talk to someone from Minnesota or thereabouts and they say like, "-20 with wind"

I just...don't even know what that could even feel like.

Minnesota: If you can’t handle me at my worst, you don’t deserve me at my other worst.