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The lol thing is that #menswear shows no 'sprezz' whatsoever. Those people care too much and know too little. Fashion victims.
 
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The lol thing is that #menswear shows no 'sprezz' whatsoever. Those people care too much and know too little. Fashion victims.
When I have seen it done well on odd occasions, perhaps sometimes in Italy and rarely in London, I think 'yes!'. But I only very rarely see such success on the CM board. Somehow the fits too often appear less than the sum of their parts.
 

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The whole less than the sum of the parts, now that *really* does sum it up. There is something of that in the look of people dressing #skinhead too. In outdoors stuff you often hear the saying 'all the gear, no idea' which is the same phenomenon. Aristotle's matter and form again, #menswear seems to lack an underlying form - the matter expresses nothing.
 
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The lol thing is that #menswear shows no 'sprezz' whatsoever. Those people care too much and know too little. Fashion victims.

I think these challenges are less and less interesting. And it's always the same people participating. A real fairy tale.
 

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I'm still no wiser! But thanks for the vote AYP and anyone else who voted.

As for 'sprezzatura' I usually find those attempts to be just gimmicks that ruin an otherwise decent outfit. Deliberately not buttoning your collar buttons - why? Don't you own a shirt with a standard collar? I asked about a bloke on CM wearing a roll necked jumper and had his shirt collars pulled up to stick out the top of the roll neck - why? I've had a go at others who haven't mastered the ability to tie a tie and keep the front blade longer. I managed this at age five! I read an interview with Brunello Cuccinelli who said he has to re-tie his tie seven or eight times each morning to achieve the right amount of nonchalance!! Tit!

And at Mr K - 'studied nonchalance' - is that phrase in itself not the epitome of an oxymoron and thus just makes a mockery of the whole thing?
 

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I'm still no wiser! But thanks for the vote AYP and anyone else who voted.

As for 'sprezzatura' I usually find those attempts to be just gimmicks that ruin an otherwise decent outfit. Deliberately not buttoning your collar buttons - why? Don't you own a shirt with a standard collar? I asked about a bloke on CM wearing a roll necked jumper and had his shirt collars pulled up to stick out the top of the roll neck - why? I've had a go at others who haven't mastered the ability to tie a tie and keep the front blade longer. I managed this at age five! I read an interview with Brunello Cuccinelli who said he has to re-tie his tie seven or eight times each morning to achieve the right amount of nonchalance!! Tit!

And at Mr K - 'studied nonchalance' - is that phrase in itself not the epitome of an oxymoron and thus just makes a mockery of the whole thing?


I read an interview with the famous Lino of al Bazaar who claims he always ties his tie without looking in the mirror. Anyway, it was soon time for the photographer to join them and Lino allegedly rushed straight to the nearest mirror to check his appearance!
 

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Rod, your Roger Sterling (from Mad Men) look was nice.



Are you him ?

But speaking of 'Sprezz', the only one who has got it, as usual, is An Acute Style. His nonchalance is as natural as his elegance.
 
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Deliberately not buttoning your collar buttons - why?


Funnily enough, that was something that marked the deliberate moving-away from strict skinhead fashion - at least in SE London - and the very swift transition via 'suedehead' to arty fashions. The first things a bloke would do would be to grow his hair and unbutton the collar buttons of the Ben Sherman. The next new shirt would not be a button-down. The next new strides would be a pair of lionels...
 

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Funnily enough, that was something that marked the deliberate moving-away from strict skinhead fashion - at least in SE London - and the very swift transition via 'suedehead' to arty fashions. The first things a bloke would do would be to grow his hair and unbutton the collar buttons of the Ben Sherman. The next new shirt would not be a button-down. The next new strides would be a pair of lionels...


And in my neck of the woods - just as you describe it MoM.
 

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Funnily enough, that was something that marked the deliberate moving-away from strict skinhead fashion - at least in SE London - and the very swift transition via 'suedehead' to arty fashions. The first things a bloke would do would be to grow his hair and unbutton the collar buttons of the Ben Sherman. The next new shirt would not be a button-down. The next new strides would be a pair of lionels...


Interesting.
I was just a very young lad in the early seventies but I remember the suede head phase. I liked it at the time (when done well) as I still do now, and for a minute probably aspired to look that cool (as soon as I got out of wearing shorts!) But in line with what you're saying, in my memory it was a transitional phase that didn't last long before lads were adopting a bit more of a glam image, with large, round collared Brutus shirts, Oxford bags and flares, centre parting hair with ear warmers, bomber jackets with long pointed collars, fat knotted ties etc. which set the tone for the rest of the seventies.
 

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Killing time at an airport so...

unusual lining on a Thomas Pink harrington, maybe feels more a 'golf jacket'

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Waxed cotton feeling green MA1 in John Lewis

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