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The 2015 Canadian Style Election

BrooksLauren77

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Well, from what I've read, they are SocDems or Social Democrats; along the lines of Scandinavian countries. They still support the capitalist mode of production.
 
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Harper, since he's been in office, looks decent. That was true before he was PM.

Trudeau always looks great in his suits, but the thing that always annoys me ever so slightly is how he ties his tie a good bit of the time. There is rarely a dimple, and it will often be loose just small enough to the point of annoyance. Other than, I think he's fine.

EDIT: And while I'm griping, his collars seem to be a little loose, too.

Mulcair is consistent, if rather boring, but that's not anything new for a politician.
 
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http://www.newsocialist.org/691-the...amble-or-a-social-democratic-party-becalmed-1

Brooks you are technically correct. I'd still keep in mind that this was part optics and the below still represents the "hardcore".

"To modify and control the operations of the monopolistic productive and distributive organizations through economic and social planning. Towards these ends and where necessary the extension of the principle of social ownership." - NDP Constitution, circa 2001-2003

That being said Mulcair seems genuinely into the new no-social-property version...I hope he is, anyway! :S
 

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http://www.newsocialist.org/691-the...amble-or-a-social-democratic-party-becalmed-1

Brooks you are technically correct. I'd still keep in mind that this was part optics and the below still represents the "hardcore".

"To modify and control the operations of the monopolistic productive and distributive organizations through economic and social planning. Towards these ends and where necessary the extension of the principle of social ownership." - NDP Constitution, circa 2001-2003

That being said Mulcair seems genuinely into the new no-social-property version...I hope he is, anyway! :S

That alone would be just optics, but Mulcair is actually trying to turn the party right (The New Liberals Party, NLP, anyone?). His comments lately have shown that even more.

Again, I want to withhold thinking that entirely till their manifesto comes out.
 

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At least he's on to a winning strategy. Poor Justin may not be able to charm his way out of being squished at the center.
 

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SirReveller's capitalist utopia is undoubtly just as unrealistic and undesirable as the socialist paradise he seems to insult. There are far more of us poors who are being squeezed than rich at the top. I sincerely doubt there are many running for any party who aren't themselves 1%ers But... this is not the CEsspool, so convos here should stick to what we can all agree with; Trudeau's good looks and Harper's creepiness.
 

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I don't know about "utopia" but capitalism has lifted more people out of poverty than any other _____ism to date, empirically speaking.

Basically, resources can be allocated one of two ways: by price or by queue. Take your pick.

As Dennis Miller once said a good day in the Soviet Union was "fifth in line and a light rain."

I'm a libertarian BTW. My Tory vote is grudging, esp on marijuana and other civil liberties.

And FYI on the class nonsense my "utopia" would lower/eliminate tax first and foremost for the poorest.
 

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I think a good question is who's look is the least calculated. Most of the party leaders have a very "purposeful" look. It's tested and meant to show an image, as opposed to actually being personal style.

To that end, I'd say Trudeau comes off to me as the most natural. Harper looks too calculated and Muclair seems just a little too intentional.

But I also haven't been paying too much attention so thats just a hot take.
 

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It's August. I don't think anyone's paying attention, which pans well for Harper and Duffy.
 

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Duff is a great example of that old adage "no good deed goes unpunished"

Aka "don't stick your neck out for a moron"
 

Cayma

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We should probably just make this the Cdn election thread since the "style" element petered out pretty quick...

Ill put the pot on:
https://www.qzzr.com/quiz/90e0ba41-2c4a-4cc2-b7b6-ff5363593693/fi9xdWl6emVzLzEwMzIyMQ

Feel free to stir in any direction.
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Things like that make me ever so happy I'm not a Grits voter...

.... but Justin is climbing in the polls, so...
 
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