SPIER & MACKAY - Official Affiliate Thread

[mossrockss]

Speaking of MTM, I just received my first commission from S&M and thought I'd do a write up for those considering going this route. Overall, my experience was excellent. S&M pretty much nailed the design details. It's funny that I received my suit amidst all the discussion about lapel shapes, as Rick showed me the Neopolitan sample they had and I decidedly did not want a lapel with lots of negative belly. I love Eidos as much as the next SF member, but I've never been as fond of their more dramatic offerings, which read to me as sort of "Liverano-lite". Instead, I tried to have Rick replicate the Ring Jacket AMJ03 style offered by the Armoury, which has a straight lapel and unpadded, spalla camicia shoulders. I requested straight lapels and unpadded shoulders, but didn't really want shirred shoulders. The end result is actually pretty similar to the pics of the sample Rick posted recently. There is a slight belly to the lapel, or at least the illusion of one, but it doesn't bother me (judging by the replies, most people here won't be fans though). Every other detail - 3.75" lapel width, three sleeve buttons, dual vents, jetted pockets, standard gorge, open quarters, side adjusters and 1.75" cuffs on trousers etc. - S&M nailed. The only issue I have is that the button placement is a bit high, but that's easy to fix on the next order.

The fit is pretty exceptional for the first try as well, although it probably helps that RTW S&M fits me pretty well already. My main issue with off the rack S&M is collar gap. I told Rick I was basically doing MTM to fix this and they nailed it. The suit hugs my neck beautifully. Everything else fits great too. I was wary of ordering working cuffs, but the arm length is perfect. As is the body length. The only changes I intend to make are to extend the shoulders a bit and add some width to the chest for drape, but these are mainly stylistic preferences. I gave them some pants to copy, and they replicated them very well, with a couple of minor exceptions that will be easy to fix on the next order.

At the end of the day, I got a fully canvassed, three piece MTM suit, with virtually no limitations on styling, for around $750USD. I think that's incredible and don't know of anywhere else one could get this kind of value. And now, without further adieu, here are a few crappy pics:

that looks fantastic. well done

 

[Burzan]

Speaking of MTM, I just received my first commission from S&M and thought I'd do a write up for those considering going this route. Overall, my experience was excellent. S&M pretty much nailed the design details. It's funny that I received my suit amidst all the discussion about lapel shapes, as Rick showed me the Neopolitan sample they had and I decidedly did not want a lapel with lots of negative belly. I love Eidos as much as the next SF member, but I've never been as fond of their more dramatic offerings, which read to me as sort of "Liverano-lite". Instead, I tried to have Rick replicate the Ring Jacket AMJ03 style offered by the Armoury, which has a straight lapel and unpadded, spalla camicia shoulders. I requested straight lapels and unpadded shoulders, but didn't really want shirred shoulders. The end result is actually pretty similar to the pics of the sample Rick posted recently. There is a slight belly to the lapel, or at least the illusion of one, but it doesn't bother me (judging by the replies, most people here won't be fans though). Every other detail - 3.75" lapel width, three sleeve buttons, dual vents, jetted pockets, standard gorge, open quarters, side adjusters and 1.75" cuffs on trousers etc. - S&M nailed. The only issue I have is that the button placement is a bit high, but that's easy to fix on the next order.

The fit is pretty exceptional for the first try as well, although it probably helps that RTW S&M fits me pretty well already. My main issue with off the rack S&M is collar gap. I told Rick I was basically doing MTM to fix this and they nailed it. The suit hugs my neck beautifully. Everything else fits great too. I was wary of ordering working cuffs, but the arm length is perfect. As is the body length. The only changes I intend to make are to extend the shoulders a bit and add some width to the chest for drape, but these are mainly stylistic preferences. I gave them some pants to copy, and they replicated them very well, with a couple of minor exceptions that will be easy to fix on the next order.

At the end of the day, I got a fully canvassed, three piece MTM suit, with virtually no limitations on styling, for around $750USD. I think that's incredible and don't know of anywhere else one could get this kind of value. And now, without further adieu, here are a few crappy pics:

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Hot damn that's a great looking suit, nice work on the details.

 

[n2pua]

What was the original Jort configuration? Have they changed it?

The only substantive change was going to a 2-button configuration a year ago. However, like all of the SuSu's inventory, what kills it every.single.time. are the functioning button-holes, ultra slim fit from shoulder to waist and shorter length. one of the forum members i speak with on a regular basis has had to listen to me gripe about the jort exhaustively and yet, there really isn't anything like it ...... the closest thing to a neapolitan jacket i've ever worn at the price point. the hand-set shoulder/collar, full canvas construction ........ it's a truly frustrating piece of tailoring. If SuSu could just get out of their own way and 1) let out the waist/chest, 2) add a touch of length and 3) drop the functioning buttonholes ....... the jort itself could "truly" be the best value in menswear.

then came Eidos and the Ciro (granted, the lapel width of the Jort is closer the Tenero model)

then the same forum member sent me a link to your IG post of the navy neapolitan jacket and i thought it was as if The Jort had a one night stand with the Ciro and one of them got pregnant and you delivered their baby.

 

[beargonefishing]

to add to @mossrockss .....

3/2 roll
wide lapel
negative belly
lower gorge
barchetta up top
patch pocket on sportcoats and flap/jetted on suits

aaaaaaand

as much grinze/expression as is allowable on a camicia shoulder.

i would MTO tomorrow

make it fully canvassed and i'd make it tonight

What is a negative belly?

 

[n2pua]

What is a negative belly?

about the 1:30 mark

 

[spiermackay]

Hi Guys,

We migrated our site to a new server last night to help deal with the increase of traffic and we hit a few bumps moving the database over. Site is down right now, but should be back up soon.

 

[Burzan]

Wearing this jacket again today, tried the combo on last night because I just got the polo and had to make it my OOTD.

Makes me want long sleeve polos from you Rick.

 

[02///M3]

that looks fantastic. well done

Hot damn that's a great looking suit, nice work on the details.

Thanks! High praise coming from guys with fits like yours. Now if only I had your photog skills.

 

[mossrockss]

Thanks! High praise coming from guys with fits like yours. Now if only I had your wife's photog skills.

FTFY

 

[mossrockss]

Wearing this jacket again today, tried the combo on last night because I just got the polo and had to make it my OOTD.

Makes me want long sleeve polos from you Rick.

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what polo is it?
friend of mine just got one of the SS Spier polos and tells me it's amazing. told him "if that's true, would love to see it in LS"

 

[Burzan]

what polo is it?
friend of mine just got one of the SS Spier polos and tells me it's amazing. told him "if that's true, would love to see it in LS"

It's Kent Wang and I hated to do it since I love the Spier & Mackay polos, needed a green though. Would love to see a dark green and brown come to the polo line up and add some long sleeves down the road.

The SM polos are fantastic, highly suggest trying them out. I suspect the next time Rick brings them out they will be even better (which is crazy to think), much like every new round of items in the line.

Thanks! High praise coming from guys with fits like yours. Now if only I had your photog skills.

Just a tripod, self timer, and a camera without autofocus. That and a lot of outtake poses where it looks like I'm robot who's learning what a human stands like. Eventually a good shot comes around though haha.

 

[goodwillhinton]

It's Kent Wang and I hated to do it since I love the Spier & Mackay polos, needed a green though. Would love to see a dark green and brown come to the polo line up and add some long sleeves down the road.

The SM polos are fantastic, highly suggest trying them out. I suspect the next time Rick brings them out they will be even better (which is crazy to think), much like every new round of items in the line.



Just a tripod, self timer, and a camera without autofocus. That and a lot of outtake poses where it looks like I'm robot who's learning what a human stands like. Eventually a good shot comes around though haha.

I have both Kent Wang and SM polos and love them both. Collars might be a tad better with the Kent Wang polos but I like the material of the SM polos better. And you can't beat the value of the SM polos.

 

[spiermackay]

Any opinions on colours for Fresco Jacketing for next Spring/Summer?

 

[pmestrad]

Any opinions on colours for Fresco Jacketing for next Spring/Summer?

green, rust, burgundy

 

[goodwillhinton]

Any opinions on colours for Fresco Jacketing for next Spring/Summer?

Blue or navy