SPIER & MACKAY - Official Affiliate Thread

[tmckay2]

I'm a little surprised people haven't caught on yet that trump is using tariffs to try to force others to capitulate on something he wants. There are better ways to do it for sure, but so far Colombia agreed to take their citizens back, Mexico committed to more troops at the border and Canada agreed to take border security seriously as well and worth with American law enforcement to stop drug trafficking.

Sooner or later someone will call the bluff and we will see who blinks first. But its pretty clear he believes less in tariffs as a long term economic strategy and more as a short term weapon to wield against people.

 

[dynemacron]

If you read the Customs guidance sent earlier today (I read most of it out of interest as a model for what could happen when the sights get turned on the EU), the references are all to goods which are the 'product of Canada', NOT country of export. Focusing on country of export and not manufacture would make no sense - it would simply drive Canadian and Mexican goods to a third country to be 'washed'. If you really want to dive deeper, here is the reference to the actual customs guidance - CSMS # 63988467 - GUIDANCE: Additional Duties on Imports from Canada. Additionally, as I noted, the customs broker and trade lawyers we use have all confirmed that this applies (or will apply if and when) to products made in Canada, not simply shipped by a Canadian source. Again, the devil will be in the details, but if SM gets good legal and customs advice, they should be able to weather this.

FWIW, that same guidance exempts "products for personal use included in accompanied baggage of persons arriving in the United States".

Thanks. That guidance was published early this afternoon. Reading through it, you are correct.

 

[TC11201]

Thanks. That guidance was published early this afternoon. Reading through it, you are correct.

Hopefully this will be another piece of dated customs guidance that we will not have to dissect or analyze. So much silliness and bluster, so little thought.

 

[Bidouleroux]

I'm a little surprised people haven't caught on yet that trump is using tariffs to try to force others to capitulate on something he wants.

Everyone except MAGA 'tards understands that. There's just nothing to gain that can't be gained through normal diplomacy. At least for the U.S. as a country. There's lots to gain personally for Trump and his cronies, however...

There are better ways to do it for sure, but so far Colombia agreed to take their citizens back, Mexico committed to more troops at the border and Canada agreed to take border security seriously as well and worth with American law enforcement to stop drug trafficking.

I'd love to get whatever you're smoking. As of right now, neither Colombia, Canada, nor Mexico has agreed to anything that wasn't already in the works before Trump took office.

Sooner or later someone will call the bluff and we will see who blinks first. But its pretty clear he believes less in tariffs as a long term economic strategy and more as a short term weapon to wield against people.

We don't need to call the bluff. Such a specific and repeated threat is an attack on our sovereignty and we are responding accordingly with boycotts and preparing to imposing counter-tariffs when the time comes.

And oh, looky here. Musk, an unelected civilian who has not been confirmed by any senate committee, is hijacking the U.S. federal government under the population's very nose while useful idiots gloat about "winning" a fabricated trade war.

I hope S&M has a diverse enough customer base to weather the storm. But if they pulled through COVID, I'm sure they can pull through this as well. 🫡

Trump will pause the tariffs for 30 days b/c Trudeau will comply. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/02/03/trump-presidency-news/

This kind of language makes me wish China would nuke an American city or two just for the heck of it and make Trump "comply", y'know. The world might end soon after, but they'd sure have owned the 'muricans! LOL!

 

[vincenzowl]

If you read the Customs guidance sent earlier today (I read most of it out of interest as a model for what could happen when the sights get turned on the EU), the references are all to goods which are the 'product of Canada', NOT country of export. Focusing on country of export and not manufacture would make no sense - it would simply drive Canadian and Mexican goods to a third country to be 'washed'. If you really want to dive deeper, here is the reference to the actual customs guidance - CSMS # 63988467 - GUIDANCE: Additional Duties on Imports from Canada. Additionally, as I noted, the customs broker and trade lawyers we use have all confirmed that this applies (or will apply if and when) to products made in Canada, not simply shipped by a Canadian source. Again, the devil will be in the details, but if SM gets good legal and customs advice, they should be able to weather this.

FWIW, that same guidance exempts "products for personal use included in accompanied baggage of persons arriving in the United States".

If this is the case, then the tariffs, should they actually be implemented in 30 days, should not affect S&M customers in the USA at all then, no? Since it's all made in China

 

[tmckay2]

Everyone except MAGA 'tards understands that. There's just nothing to gain that can't be gained through normal diplomacy. At least for the U.S. as a country. There's lots to gain personally for Trump and his cronies, however...


I'd love to get whatever you're smoking. As of right now, neither Colombia, Canada, nor Mexico has agreed to anything that wasn't already in the works before Trump took office.


We don't need to call the bluff. Such a specific and repeated threat is an attack on our sovereignty and we are responding accordingly with boycotts and preparing to imposing counter-tariffs when the time comes.

And oh, looky here. Musk, an unelected civilian who has not been confirmed by any senate committee, is hijacking the U.S. federal government under the population's very nose while useful idiots gloat about "winning" a fabricated trade war.

I hope S&M has a diverse enough customer base to weather the storm. But if they pulled through COVID, I'm sure they can pull through this as well. 🫡


This kind of language makes me wish China would nuke an American city or two just for the heck of it and make Trump "comply", y'know. The world might end soon after, but they'd sure have owned the 'muricans! LOL!

I was going to reply point by point but it seems like you have a very unhealthy relationship with politics so I'm going to just let it lie.

Fyi I'm not even a trump fan and never voted for him and never will. I just think both sides dumb down complicated matters way too much to score points with like minded individuals. I try to see the nuance of policies.

 

[TC11201]

If this is the case, then the tariffs, should they actually be implemented in 30 days, should not affect S&M customers in the USA at all then, no? Since it's all made in China

That comes down to what SM decides to do with their customs filings. It's technical quickly, but on the face of it, if they get good advice, they should be able to avoid these additional tariffs for the stuff not made in China (there were an additional 10% tariffs applied to Chinese goods, although I did not read the customs guidance to understand the ins and outs).

 

[WoolyLamb]

Guys cmon stop talking about the politics. None of you can do anything about it that has not already been done November 5th. Find some other political outlet.

 

[classicoutfits]

How does this look in real life?
The model snd the hanger shots are different colors and the description is grey green so … do you think it’s worth adding to the wardrobe?

Green-Gray Neo Cut Sport Coat | SPIER & MACKAY

Spier & Mackay

www.spierandmackay.com

 

[dapperdan88]

How does this look in real life?
The model snd the hanger shots are different colors and the description is grey green so … do you think it’s worth adding to the wardrobe?

Green-Gray Neo Cut Sport Coat | SPIER & MACKAY

Spier & Mackay

www.spierandmackay.com

Here are some photos of the fabric from another thread I saved when I saw them.

Is the sports coat green or grey?

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[tmckay2]

Here are some photos of the fabric from another thread I saved when I saw them.

Dang that's pretty sharp. I like that mix of color

 

[NadalRG]

Everyone except MAGA 'tards understands that. There's just nothing to gain that can't be gained through normal diplomacy. At least for the U.S. as a country. There's lots to gain personally for Trump and his cronies, however...


I'd love to get whatever you're smoking. As of right now, neither Colombia, Canada, nor Mexico has agreed to anything that wasn't already in the works before Trump took office.


We don't need to call the bluff. Such a specific and repeated threat is an attack on our sovereignty and we are responding accordingly with boycotts and preparing to imposing counter-tariffs when the time comes.

And oh, looky here. Musk, an unelected civilian who has not been confirmed by any senate committee, is hijacking the U.S. federal government under the population's very nose while useful idiots gloat about "winning" a fabricated trade war.

I hope S&M has a diverse enough customer base to weather the storm. But if they pulled through COVID, I'm sure they can pull through this as well. 🫡


This kind of language makes me wish China would nuke an American city or two just for the heck of it and make Trump "comply", y'know. The world might end soon after, but they'd sure have owned the 'muricans! LOL!

TDS needs to be studied for decades to come.

 

[tmckay2]

TDS needs to be studied for decades to come.

Wooly was right let's just drop it and move on