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[PairOfDerby's]

Seems theres a Blucher/Split-toe Apron trend going around. Sanders just released one too in scotch grain

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Jonah

I'm wearing the Church's Northwood in highland grain right now. It's one of my favourite pairs!

 

[Fenners81]

I just thought Blucher was an American term for a Derby.
Are you saying that a Blucher is a whole-cut Derby with two pieces of leather sewn on to create the lacing?

Yes exactly. This is what differentiates a butcher from a standard derby.

 

[Ypuh]

To my understanding, all bluchers are derbies, but not all derbies are bluchers.

The definition is: a shoe having the tongue and vamp cut in one piece and the quarters lapped over the vamp and laced together for closing (Merriam Webster).

Blucher:

Derby:

 

[Mashir]

A boot construction certainly negates heel slip due to grabbing at the ankle.

Thank you! Any advice about 325 versus 365 in boot form?

 

[Fenners81]

This is correct

Thank you! Any advice about 325 versus 365 in boot form?

depends on what you want. 325 is more refined with a pointier toe. The 365 is more rounded and generous in the forefoot area. I personally prefer the fit and aesthetic of 365 but it purely subjective. Do you want smart or more rugged looking boots? I would say conistons are smarter looking than Islays for example.

 

[Humpty_Dumpty_Rises]

Yes exactly. This is what differentiates a butcher from a standard derby.

To my understanding, all bluchers are derbies, but not all derbies are bluchers.

The definition is: a shoe having the tongue and vamp cut in one piece and the quarters lapped over the vamp and laced together for closing (Merriam Webster).

Blucher:

Derby:

Organic Chemistry is easier to understand ....
I dont see how the tongue and vamp are different in both these pictures

 

[Humpty_Dumpty_Rises]

Yes exactly. This is what differentiates a butcher from a standard derby.

Should we call a Derby a 'Derby' or a 'Gibson'

 

[Fenners81]

Organic Chemistry is easier to understand ....
I dont see how the tongue and vamp are different in both these pictures

It’s the quarters rather that the vamp that’s different

 

[Humpty_Dumpty_Rises]

It’s the quarters rather that the vamp that’s different

@Ypuh is correct then to say that all Butchers are Gibsons . But not all Gibsons are Butchers

 

[Fenners81]

any chance we can move onto a budapester next? That’s always flummoxed me.

 

[DorianGreen]

A typical Budapester.

It's a Derby on a heavy Austro-Ungarian last.

 

[bemk]

A Derby:

- Crockett & Jones Pembroke, Tan Scotch Grain -

 

[Fenners81]

A Derby:

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- Crockett & Jones Pembroke, Tan Scotch Grain -

I was under the impression TSG pics were banned.