** Quintessential Crockett & Jones Thread ** (reviews, quality, etc...)

[Menninki]

First outing with these beauties

Which model is this? Cornell Hurricane? Looks nice.

 

[Menninki]

I am interested in the pre-order Sandhurst in Zug, but I have no experience with the 375. I would like to ask anyone who has the Sandhurst or any other derby in 375 what kind of an instep it has? I have the 325 and it fits me okay, but due to my somewhat low instep so the fit is not ideal and I am worried that the 375 instep is as voluminous as in the 325.

 

[Fenners81]

Which model is this? Cornell Hurricane? Looks nice.

Not sure of the model - just sold as shell cordovan plain toe blucher. Made for Ralph Lauren.

 

[zippyh]

Not sure of the model - just sold as shell cordovan plain toe blucher. Made for Ralph Lauren.

Those were usually sold under the Marlow name but that name also applied to wingtips, tassels, and penny loafers.

There’s an old thread about C&J for Ralph if you want to reminisce about the good old days of cheap C&J and EG for Ralph.

Crockett & Jones for Ralph Lauren Cordovan (Marlow, Darlton, Gifford, Garran, Lindrick, McCallum, Rh

Lindrick: Poller: Prescott Rhett Marlow Plain Toe Blucher Darlton Wingtip Pasquale Brown shell aged under the lights at SF RL McCallum Gifford Garran Marlow Penny Loafer Marlow Tassel Loafer Boot Strap Chukka Plain Toe

www.styleforum.net

 

[taher]

Hello, I’m interested in the SEATON loafers, it is unlined in the 376 last.
My measurements are as follows
Length 26.1 CM

Width 10 CM

Heel width is around 6.1-6.4 CM

I have really narrow heels and never found loafers that fit around the heel, but I heard that the 376 last has a narrow heel.

For reference
I’ve tried a loafer from TLB artista line 7UK on the Goya last and the heel was too wide.

I’ve also tried loafers from Baudoin & Lange size 41 but the heel and waist were too wide and size 40 was too short.

I’ve also bought a wholecut oxford from Jfitzpatrick footwear in the TMG last in size 8 US but it was really wide at the heel and it was unwearable.

I have messaged customer service and they recommended size 7 UK for unlined shoes
Does that sound reasonable? Because that’s a full size small than the size chart and it will be difficult to return the shoes.
Any feedback would be appreciated.
Thank you.

 

[Menninki]

The oxblood zug pre-order has ended already. The demand exceeded their expectations according to customer service.

 

[Marmite89]

The oxblood zug pre-order has ended already. The demand exceeded their expectations according to customer service.

Would be intriguing to know how many “limited” units they have shifted…???

 

[Menninki]

Would be intriguing to know how many “limited” units they have shifted…???

Yes, accordingly there will be new pre-orders "soon".

Btw, to make sure everyone knows, the pre-orders have a no-return policy! So you better know your size. For me personally the fit of the 375 is a mystery, so I figured it was too risky.

 

[KOz]

Hello, I’m interested in the SEATON loafers, it is unlined in the 376 last.
My measurements are as follows
Length 26.1 CM

Width 10 CM

Heel width is around 6.1-6.4 CM

I have really narrow heels and never found loafers that fit around the heel, but I heard that the 376 last has a narrow heel.

For reference
I’ve tried a loafer from TLB artista line 7UK on the Goya last and the heel was too wide.

I’ve also tried loafers from Baudoin & Lange size 41 but the heel and waist were too wide and size 40 was too short.

I’ve also bought a wholecut oxford from Jfitzpatrick footwear in the TMG last in size 8 US but it was really wide at the heel and it was unwearable.

I have messaged customer service and they recommended size 7 UK for unlined shoes
Does that sound reasonable? Because that’s a full size small than the size chart and it will be difficult to return the shoes.
Any feedback would be appreciated.
Thank you.

Have a look at Anglo-Italian's Unley loafers. I also have very narrow heels and the 391 last is perfect for me.

 

[Fenners81]

Already had the smooth calf version but been wanting the grain for a while and they arrived today.

 

[taher]

Have a look at Anglo-Italian's Unley loafers. I also have very narrow heels and the 391 last is perfect for me.

Thank you for the suggestion.
What size would you recommend for my measurements?

 

[KOz]

Thank you for the suggestion.
What size would you recommend for my measurements?

Your foot is a 3-dimensional object and those measurements can only do so much in guestimating size, much to the chagrin of Brannock believers.

Only thing I can say is that I take my shoes in 6.5-7 UK and my Unley loafers are 6.5.

 

[shoefan57]

Thank you for the suggestion.
What size would you recommend for my measurements?

For my wife we emailed measurements of the width across instep and the length to a C&J shop and they told us what size to buy - they were spot on. As for lasts - that’s more in the realm of alchemy and only trial and error can help you there.

 

[Pascal1980]

Hello everybody,

I have a question: By coincidence I could try my first pair of Carmina Oxfords on the Rain last here in a upscale fashion shop on the well-known, at least for Frankfurter, Goethe-Strasse in Frankfurt. They fit nicely in UK 7,5 and were extremly tight in UK 7. Now I see at the homepage that they hvae an Oxford in burgundy museum calf on sale. I am looking for a burgundy Oxford as I like to colour for my range of blue suits.

How does the quality of Carmina compare to Crockett & Jones, or Cheaney Imperial Line? Is it on par, as it is wel of 1/3 cheaper?

What are your experiences with Spanish and English shoe makers of goodyear welted shoes?

Best regards from Germany

Pascal

 

[Neville Southall]

Haven't been here in a while. Good to see we're still asking sizing questions in 2024.