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It would be naive for C&J to compete against G&G or even EG with their offerings.
According to Men's Ex, top 3 selling C&J in UK are Connaught, Hallam (348) and Audley (358). All in black.
Ya. Such a tragedy. And Seymour 1 is getting hard to find, at least in Royal Arcade.
It would be naive for C&J to compete against G&G or even EG with their offerings. Aside from the fashion forward new 358 designs, C&J do charge an obscene amount for MTO (£700 vs. £400s handgrade), especially compared to G&G or EG (£150 MTO surcharge for both). They should really instead offer a real MTO program that let you choose design and last for at least competitive pricing.
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Can't figure out how CJ can charge so much for MTO, especially since Carmina are closing up and breathing down their neck with a more reasonable MTO surcharge
Wow - so basically $1100-$1200 for an MTO C&J?
Do they all "become" handgrade? What if you do a benchgrade model in another color?
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Can't figure out how CJ can charge so much for MTO, especially since Carmina are closing up and breathing down their neck with a more reasonable MTO surcharge
Their factory production flow is probably not designed for MTO but for volume manufacturing. With all the volume they are enjoying OEM'ing shoes for other brands and Japan, a good MTO program will cost them much much more.
Nothing like a test drive to know for sure. It will almost undoubtably fit you fine in width - you'll know soon enough if it's too long or not.
I think the Drummond is just about my favorite shoe on earth at the moment (for the price) - totally tasteful and traditional but clean and modern at the same time - good choice you made!
...while deciding and contemplating on a couple of C&J, recent last/fit discussions has been very helpful..Thanks