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Pitti Uomo 87 in pictures

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Anyway this is turning into an epic thread. All we need now is a touch of
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So, to the haters, this is why I think the hate talk here is asinine at best.

Not a single person here is even making an attempt at saying that the, as Greg so eloquently put it, full-marsupial fits, at Pitti, are halfway good looking, and certainly not in good taste. What I think people are trying to say, or at least what I am trying to say, is that that is just the way it is. I dont know what it was like 10 or 20 years ago, but for the last good number of years that is how it has been. And its fun to watch. No one is saying to emulate that, or that these guys look awesome, just that its a spectacle to behold.

So. Coming into a Pitti thread, as people do every year without fail, and complaining about it, and saying, "C'mon guys these fools look silly, why are you giving them a pass?" Is simply missing the boat. Like, jumping off the dock a good 90 minutes after the boat left, missing the boat. No one is giving them a pass. Some people just simply enjoy looking at what crazy combinations people come up with and ogling it twice a year. Not to mention, that there are a lot of awesome items and fabrics in those crazy fits, its just that perhaps most of us would wear one of them at a time, not 7, and we would probably have everything made up a little longer and lot less tight. And besides that, there are always guys like EFV, and Greg and Braddock... that go there and look great. Is it so hard to let people enjoy that without pissing on their parade?

Its almost like someone who hates clothes coming in to SF and saying, hey, you guys all look pretentious and care way too much about clothing! Correct. We all care way too much, and thats why we found a corner of the internet to enjoy our hobby in, and not your living room. If its not your jam, find somewhere else to hang, the same way I dont march into your gun or knife, or whatever the hell hobbyist forum, and whine like a baby.

If you dont like Pitti, go start an, "I HATE PITTI TO THE MAX LEVEL ELEVENTY NINE!!!!111!!!##@11!!" thread, and talk about how dumb it is, and how its driving fashion/style into the ground. In the meantime, the show will probably to continue to get more and more crowded each year, as it seems to be doing, and people who enjoy it will come to these threads to discuss it and look at funny pictures. Double bonus, since nobody is changing anybody elses mind, the people who enjoy Pitti wont come crap on the Pitti hate threads, and then we can avoid having this exact same back and forth every 6 months.


Or add "Appreciation" to the title of this thread so everyone knows it's all about sweetness and light and to take the Pitti Hate Machine elsewhere. Otherwise It should be fair to to compliment EFV as well as say "you know, there is a former SF AV and current member who has an interesting yellow Tattersall DB but the red buttons take it into Ronald McDonald territory"
 

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I don't have an issue with critiques on Pitti.

What I find interesting is that the people who constantly complain about Pitti are the same people every season in these threads. Perhaps expecting some type of timeless and classic change.



Sartodi perhaps I can understand to a degree because he is convinced it makes a mockery of his trade.

Posters like Aranthor tho...

I don't get
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It's like Goku hitting his strongest opponent yet with a kamehama and is shocked when he comes out of the ashes unscathed knowing damn well the same damn move didn't put a dent on his previous/much weaker opponent

at this point he should see Pitti threads and just pass them because he knows what he is going to get.
 
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Yeah, I probably should just pass on by, but it is too damn tempting to come in and poke around, especially when the home page is plastered with Pitti this and Pitti that.

Why not just write GTFO? I bet that is what some of you are thinking.
 
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Yeah, I probably should just pass on by, but it is too damn tempting to come in and poke around, especially when the home page is plastered with Pitti this and Pitti that.

Why not just write GTFO? I bet that is what some of you are thinking.
nah. you are more than welcomed to stay.

Just don't understand why you punish yourself.

I personally usually skip Pitti Pics. Because I don't care. I usually check to see if there any brands I like participated, becasue once you have seen pitti pics from one season you have seen them all. They all look the same.

I found myself paying more attnetion this year only because I particpated at Pitti.

Now quick question man.


I know you hate Pitti and all that **** and it is the showcases the worst in human beings.


But I am curious to know if what you would do if you were offered a roundtrip ticket to go to Pitti (No chance for sight seeing in Florence... just Pitti)
 

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EFV does a nice job at catching them. The biggest problem is that it is incredibly easy to get some good shots of the peacocks outside - you don't even have to ask, they're all posing already, they even know where the good light is - but it is a lot harder to catch those who are simply well dressed and working the show. For one, they're mostly inside anf the light is nowhere as sexy; and when they're not inside, they're simply arriving or leaving. So you do get a few good shots of the entrance sometimes (like Yasuto Kamoshita, Mark & Alan, Marzotto, etc...) but it's not as easy as shooting those guys who do nothing but standing outside for attention.
This. It's still primarily a place for commerce, and from what I saw this year, a lot of the vendors I regularly visit, and usually have a fair bit of down time, were slammed with appointments. I just looked at the closing numbers, and there was a 15% increase in the number of buyers at the show over the Januaury 2014 edition of the show, with over 24K buyers attending, out of a total of 35K visitors. There were 432 vendors at the show (http://www.pittimmagine.com/en/corporate/fairs/uomo/news/2015/closing.html). The typical small booth has, from my very unscientific count, about 3 to 5 people working them, and the large booths typically have 5-10, not including models and other people with ver defined roles. That actually leaves a fairly small fraction of people who are there as press, which includes anything from the major publications (the various GQs, Esquires, people like the Styleforum Crew, and the, independent bloggers). The "show" is nonetheless very important. The press and publicity people are those who are drawing attention to the fair, and to menswear, a couple of times a year. If you don't believe that press is important to the Pitti Immagine organization, it'd be very hard to understand the host of special services that are given to press. There is a special press entrance, a large building devoted to press with a free coffee stand, and a very nice, and extensive, press lunch room. They want to keep the press at the event as long as possible, each day, because it's the one group that doesn't generally have any easily measurable return on their investment.

I have no idea who Sartod is talking to, but it's probably just the usual grumbling that always happens. The Pitti organization has a winning formula, highly publicizing the show, and holding it at the very beginning of the season, and they know it. They have already locked in their dates for years. I think that they are walking around like this:

 

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You couldn't get me to go if I wasn't given a choice to go anywhere else. If I ever went to Italy I'd try to find the village my Nona grew up in. Isn't Italy broke as hell, I don't want to walk around dressed all spiffy and get jacked by Cosa Nostra.
 
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You couldn't get me to go if I wasn't given a choice to go anywhere else. If I ever went to Italy I'd try to find the village my Nona grew up in. Isn't Italy broke as hell, I don't want to walk around dressed all spiffy and get jacked by Cosa Nostra.
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You couldn't get me to go if I wasn't given a choice to go anywhere else. If I ever went to Italy I'd try to find the village my Nona grew up in. Isn't Italy broke as hell, I don't want to walk around dressed all spiffy and get jacked by Cosa Nostra.
So, are you saying that you would go, if you were offered Pitti, and nothing else?

Incidentally, I don't think that you have a good idea of how the Cosa Nostra, or organized crime, in general, works. It's pretty rare that they go outside of the communities from which they draw their strength except when threatened. Italy is not a failed stated like some of the Mexican states. In a non-failed state, organized crime is usually tolerated to some degree, but only in those organzations keep their activities confined to their home communities. They run things from prostitution and human trafficking to illegal dumping to drugs to gambling to extortion (a big one), but you gotta find a pretty dumb gangster who is going to kidnap a foreign national from the streets of Florence, which is not only not their homebase, but a major international tourist attraction. Also, you don't get to join an organized crime organization just because you're out of a job. It's not a makework project.
 

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You couldn't get me to go if I wasn't given a choice to go anywhere else. If I ever went to Italy I'd try to find the village my Nona grew up in. Isn't Italy broke as hell, I don't want to walk around dressed all spiffy and get jacked by Cosa Nostra.


I've seen some pretty ignorant comments on SF, but this one must rank among the best...
 

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Why the face palm? I wasn't very PC, right? (Plus I'm saying that in jest.)
 
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