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[clee1982]

was Bill's khaki original "good" to start with I thought it was just fine value brand

 

[whorishconsumer]

was Bill's khaki original "good" to start with I thought it was just fine value brand

It was if you ask AskAndy.

 

[clee1982]

It was if you ask AskAndy.

I feel like it’s a comparison that might be true in 2007, right now it’s just in a sea of commodity, for chino I have no problem going J crew B&W, or PRL if they still have none elastin stuff. Surprisingly RRL officer chino has stayed at ~$240 over many years

 

[whorishconsumer]

I feel like it’s a comparison that might be true in 2007, right now it’s just in a sea of commodity, for chino I have no problem going J crew B&W, or PRL if they still have none elastin stuff. Surprisingly RRL officer chino has stayed at ~$240 over many years

Agreed. Probably more in-group cache and nationalist associations than anything else. I still ordered a pair of M1s from "Dann-Online" on the chance they might be holding deadstock. Measurements wise, M1 was the only chino matching what I was looking for.

 

[clee1982]

how about these

PRL big chino

The Big Chino

Ralph Lauren

www.ralphlauren.com

whitman

Whitman Relaxed Fit Pleated Chino Pant | Ralph Lauren

Shop the Men's Whitman Relaxed Fit Pleated Chino Pant and other classic styles from Ralph Lauren. Free Shipping With an RL Account & Free Returns.

www.ralphlauren.com

big cord (not chino but I kind like these)

The Big Corduroy Pant

Ralph Lauren

www.ralphlauren.com

or I think you're really tall (have some stretch though)

Stretch Classic Fit Chino Pant | Ralph Lauren

Shop the Men's Stretch Classic Fit Chino Pant and other classic styles from Ralph Lauren. Free Shipping With an RL Account & Free Returns.

www.ralphlauren.com

Olderbest has shorter inseam and return is probably more annoying, these are the wider pants (they have a ton of fit, these are on the wider side)

Lot 829 1940s High-Waisted Work Trousers - Khaki

Crafted from a custom-made, made from 100% cotton. Glossy urethane buttons. High-waisted design. Durable heavyweight twill fabric.

www.olderbest.com

Lot 827 1940s USN Chino Trousers

1940s-style twill fabric, crispness, durability, and rugged texture. The 827 trousers feature a high-waisted design with a relatively slim leg, making them versatile for spring and summer. They pair well with canvas shoes, leather shoes, or boots, and can be styled with shirts, sweatshirts, or...

www.olderbest.com

1944 USMC Officer Trousers - Khaki

It is made of 11 oz. cotton twill, feels soft and warm, has strong texture, medium and high waist straight pants type, loose and comfortable upper body, pure cotton bag cloth, printed with the sign of shrinkage, and no shrinkage problem after washing, a total of four colors, each characteristic...

www.olderbest.com

French Army M-1952 Chino Trousers

single-pleated version of the French Army M-1952 Chino Trousers. Crafted from 10.5 oz high-density cotton twill fabric, it features a button fly, two side on-seam pockets, and two buttoned pockets at the back. The overall structure presents a high waist and straight leg shape. 10 oz. cotton...

www.olderbest.com

US Army 1942 Model Chino Trousers

This is a reproduction of the 1942 version, and its features are double-welted pockets and twin-needle chain stitch craft. It comes in 11.5 oz of high-density single-yarn drill fabric, which is very close to the texture of the original.

www.olderbest.com

 

[whorishconsumer]

how about these

PRL big chino

The Big Chino

Ralph Lauren

www.ralphlauren.com

whitman

Whitman Relaxed Fit Pleated Chino Pant | Ralph Lauren

Shop the Men's Whitman Relaxed Fit Pleated Chino Pant and other classic styles from Ralph Lauren. Free Shipping With an RL Account & Free Returns.

www.ralphlauren.com

big cord (not chino but I kind like these)

The Big Corduroy Pant

Ralph Lauren

www.ralphlauren.com

or I think you're really tall (have some stretch though)

Stretch Classic Fit Chino Pant | Ralph Lauren

Shop the Men's Stretch Classic Fit Chino Pant and other classic styles from Ralph Lauren. Free Shipping With an RL Account & Free Returns.

www.ralphlauren.com

Olderbest has shorter inseam and return is probably more annoying, these are the wider pants (they have a ton of fit, these are on the wider side)

Lot 829 1940s High-Waisted Work Trousers - Khaki

Crafted from a custom-made, made from 100% cotton. Glossy urethane buttons. High-waisted design. Durable heavyweight twill fabric.

www.olderbest.com

Lot 827 1940s USN Chino Trousers

1940s-style twill fabric, crispness, durability, and rugged texture. The 827 trousers feature a high-waisted design with a relatively slim leg, making them versatile for spring and summer. They pair well with canvas shoes, leather shoes, or boots, and can be styled with shirts, sweatshirts, or...

www.olderbest.com

1944 USMC Officer Trousers - Khaki

It is made of 11 oz. cotton twill, feels soft and warm, has strong texture, medium and high waist straight pants type, loose and comfortable upper body, pure cotton bag cloth, printed with the sign of shrinkage, and no shrinkage problem after washing, a total of four colors, each characteristic...

www.olderbest.com

French Army M-1952 Chino Trousers

single-pleated version of the French Army M-1952 Chino Trousers. Crafted from 10.5 oz high-density cotton twill fabric, it features a button fly, two side on-seam pockets, and two buttoned pockets at the back. The overall structure presents a high waist and straight leg shape. 10 oz. cotton...

www.olderbest.com

US Army 1942 Model Chino Trousers

This is a reproduction of the 1942 version, and its features are double-welted pockets and twin-needle chain stitch craft. It comes in 11.5 oz of high-density single-yarn drill fabric, which is very close to the texture of the original.

www.olderbest.com

Sizing's too small on the older best stock, but RL ones could also work.

 

[symphvaria]

how about these

PRL big chino

The Big Chino

Ralph Lauren

www.ralphlauren.com

whitman

Whitman Relaxed Fit Pleated Chino Pant | Ralph Lauren

Shop the Men's Whitman Relaxed Fit Pleated Chino Pant and other classic styles from Ralph Lauren. Free Shipping With an RL Account & Free Returns.

www.ralphlauren.com

big cord (not chino but I kind like these)

The Big Corduroy Pant

Ralph Lauren

www.ralphlauren.com

or I think you're really tall (have some stretch though)

Stretch Classic Fit Chino Pant | Ralph Lauren

Shop the Men's Stretch Classic Fit Chino Pant and other classic styles from Ralph Lauren. Free Shipping With an RL Account & Free Returns.

www.ralphlauren.com

Olderbest has shorter inseam and return is probably more annoying, these are the wider pants (they have a ton of fit, these are on the wider side)

Lot 829 1940s High-Waisted Work Trousers - Khaki

Crafted from a custom-made, made from 100% cotton. Glossy urethane buttons. High-waisted design. Durable heavyweight twill fabric.

www.olderbest.com

Lot 827 1940s USN Chino Trousers

1940s-style twill fabric, crispness, durability, and rugged texture. The 827 trousers feature a high-waisted design with a relatively slim leg, making them versatile for spring and summer. They pair well with canvas shoes, leather shoes, or boots, and can be styled with shirts, sweatshirts, or...

www.olderbest.com

1944 USMC Officer Trousers - Khaki

It is made of 11 oz. cotton twill, feels soft and warm, has strong texture, medium and high waist straight pants type, loose and comfortable upper body, pure cotton bag cloth, printed with the sign of shrinkage, and no shrinkage problem after washing, a total of four colors, each characteristic...

www.olderbest.com

French Army M-1952 Chino Trousers

single-pleated version of the French Army M-1952 Chino Trousers. Crafted from 10.5 oz high-density cotton twill fabric, it features a button fly, two side on-seam pockets, and two buttoned pockets at the back. The overall structure presents a high waist and straight leg shape. 10 oz. cotton...

www.olderbest.com

US Army 1942 Model Chino Trousers

This is a reproduction of the 1942 version, and its features are double-welted pockets and twin-needle chain stitch craft. It comes in 11.5 oz of high-density single-yarn drill fabric, which is very close to the texture of the original.

www.olderbest.com

Can confirm that the PRL big chino is awesome. Have a pair of the distressed ones with the metal buttons and they’re my goto summer chino. Whitman is good too but not as big as vintage Andrew pants.

 

[clee1982]

I’m tempted at the big chino but I just did a cleaning last week and I found nearly 10 pair chino (dress to rugged and more if you count khaki color in wool) in smallest different shade difference so that’s clearly a disease need to stop…

 

[oucheebooboo]

Agreed. Probably more in-group cache and nationalist associations than anything else. I still ordered a pair of M1s from "Dann-Online" on the chance they might be holding deadstock. Measurements wise, M1 was the only chino matching what I was looking for.

Not sure what you’re looking for, but O’Connell’s is known to carry Bills Khakis old stock.

@clee1982 provided an impressive list of vendors. Perhaps you can benefit from his proclivity for chinos purchasing. My own addiction is in researching sources & solutions….*

I wrote these responses to other chino inquiries in a few different, older threads: “Where do you get your classic chinos?”;

Classic, straight, double pleated trousers which don't look pre-war and don't taper like contemporary cuts.

American gigolo inspiration. I love these trousers because they are a timeless fit. I don’t even think they look “retro”. The waist is higher than today's fashion, but not insanely high, like around his nipples. The trousers are wide but they’re not like a dress, or flared. I think the whole...

www.styleforum.net

“Reasonably priced, quality chinos” and “Desperately looking for 100% Chinos”. (*Believe it or not, I’m not even a “chinos guy”.)

Hopefully, you find something helpful in the provided information.

 

[Gus]

was Bill's khaki original "good" to start with I thought it was just fine value brand

In the late 80's to the 90's most khakis were similar in fit and using lighter weight khaki twill made off-shore (The Gap, Banana Republic, etc.) but Bill's offered a heavier weight, made in USA, straight fuller cut similar to 40's and 50's style military. They soon became a staple brand in independent, traditional men's clothing stores across the country. The fit was especially appealing to older and larger guys and was counter to the fashion fit/look of that period. (This was also the period where every "dad" had a leather flight style jacket).

 

[clee1982]

yup but it’s not 2007 anymore though, plenty heavy weight chino out there, and so many choice in cut

 

[whorishconsumer]

I’m tempted at the big chino but I just did a cleaning last week and I found nearly 10 pair chino (dress to rugged and more if you count khaki color in wool) in smallest different shade difference so that’s clearly a disease need to stop…

I'm imagining you swaddled in a large pile of chinos.

This was also the period where every "dad" had a leather flight style jacket

Incidentally "Dad's Style" is the aesthetic I'm going for.

 

[Gus]

Incidentally "Dad's Style" is the aesthetic I'm going for.

You're in luck! Thrift Shops and flea markets are full of options.

 

[whorishconsumer]

You're in luck! Thrift Shops and flea markets are full of options.

Not nearly as bountiful for a 6'3" 250lb dude, sadly.

 

[Gus]

yup but it’s not 2007 anymore though, plenty heavy weight chino out there, and so many choice in cut

I maybe the remaining fan of the 2010 forum favorite Incotex chinos. I do like the 2% stretch in their regular cut. Especially comfortable for travel.