James Bond: Quantum of Solace

[Patrician]

One can not really compare CR and QoS with the earlier Bond since they're not even the same "kind". Mr Flemming's earlier novels, before Dr No, were a lot more brutal and not at all the same charming Bond. As we know him.

 

[cheessus]

The movie was pretty good. Great action scenes, but then again, I am a fan of Bourne. However, my only problem was that it was short; it didn't really flesh out the ending to CR. Furthermore, the pacing of the movie made the ending that much more unexpected and weirder. I remember when it ended, I was like "What?" I had thought it was just starting??? Also they could've done a lot more with Olga Kurylenko's character.

 

[HomerJ]

Pretty much James Bourne. I liked the resolution to the Vespr storyline. I understand the shift away from Q gadgets. It's hard to wow someone in the audience who has a cellphone in his pocket that can take pictures, access the internet, and connect to GPS satellites. Think back to quaint gadgets like Bond's pager or minicamera. When you try too hard you end up with invisible cars and x ray eyeglasses. Exploding _____ and laser watch has been done to death so what's left? The gadgets in QoS were realistic tech and it was smooth how he got a trace on that cellphone. Cellphones are a huge part of the plot these days in this genre. Watching 24 was like viewing a Sprint commerical. Anyway my main complaint is that Bond is a meathead roid thug. He's more suited to the role of assassin than suave spy. I don't buy the argument that this is 007's beginning so he is rough and becomes more sophisticated later. Bond should be a natural panty dropper, that isn't coachable. Daniel Craig is simply not hot enough no ****. The scene where he asks the airline employee to mislead the authorities had zero credibility. I could see Connery pull it off like a smooth mac but not Craig. I'm surprised he didn't rip out her windpipe to keep her quiet. Another problem, he sleeps with one woman and she looks like this. eh... although I liked the homage to Goldfinger.

 

[DocHolliday]

Originally Posted by HomerJ

Bond should be a natural panty dropper, that isn't coachable.

Not that this has any great significance, but Craig is by far my girlfriend's Bond of choice. She seems to feel that she shouldn't like his craggy, brutish look, but she does. She's not really interested in any of the other Bond actors -- her second choice, trailing by a good margin, is Timothy Dalton. Make of that what you will.

 

[rdawson808]

Originally Posted by HomerJ

Daniel Craig is simply not hot enough no ****.

Good gawds, here's another phrase we need to ban. It really makes you sound like a 13 year old.

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[milosz]

If the redhead picked me up at the airport wearing nothing but a trenchcoat, I'd sell out God, king and country in about five seconds. Total babe.

I don't mind the direction they've gone with Bond - the M/007 relationship is great, Craig is a fine actor, the plots and gadgets of the Brosnan Bonds got worse by the movie - but the direction isn't very good. There are only a few directors who can pull off high-speed shakycam to good effect, and two of them have worked on the Bourne franchise (Doug Liman and Paul Greengrass). Here the high-speed action is just hard to follow - the slower scenes (often of Craig getting punched repeatedly...) are decent.

 

[Matt]

was ok but no Casino Royale. A little anticlimactic.

 

[ryoneo]

Had a chance to see it this past weekend. It had its moments, but it was surely not a Bond film IMO. The camera angle, during many of the action sequences was filmed too close and made it hard to follow. There just wasn't enough aspects to make it a Bond film. I understand that they are trying to remake the whole Bond franchise, but they missed the mark on this one.

 

[lefty]

If the glassy look to my wife's eyes was any indicator, Craig can get the ladies.

Overall, I enjoyed it, but for two things. First off, the action didn't cut and it frustrates the hell out of me when I don't know where I am during a fight scene. That fault lies with the director who blocked out the shots. Secondly, the bad guy wasn't bad enough and his goal was hardly earthshaking. Double the water bill for Bolivia? What happened to Drax's master race?

lefty

 

[rdawson808]

Originally Posted by lefty

If the glassy look to my wife's eyes was any indicator, Craig can get the ladies.

Yeah, I saw it with two other couples, and all of our wives said that Craig is hot.

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[Nick M]

I really enjoyed Casino Royale - except for the poker - but Quantum was pretty average.

Started out strong - enjoyed the first couple of chase scenes, and the choreography for the fight sequence in the apartment is positively Bourne-like, but it seemed to fall to pieces beyond that - oddly-paced, strangely edited, and the villainous plot is super-weak.

The one thing I can't buy in this film is Quantum itself - the supposed ultimate secret organization is headed solely by late-middle-aged rich people, seemingly with no agent training, and whose impenetrable method of non-detection is to conference call at the opera? They have a lot of lackeys, fall guys and henchmen, most of whom seem to be borderline marsupialed and publicly trigger-happy, and none has ever spilled a single bean? How did M's bodyguard keep passing the MI6 security checks? Is he magic?

 

[DocHolliday]

Originally Posted by lefty

ISecondly, the bad guy wasn't bad enough and his goal was hardly earthshaking. Double the water bill for Bolivia? What happened to Drax's master race?

Spoiler for anyone who hasn't seen it ...



I didn't really get the point of the double cross at the end. Why didn't they just set out their conditions with the dictator from the beginning?

 

[Roikins]

Originally Posted by DocHolliday

Spoiler for anyone who hasn't seen it ...



I didn't really get the point of the double cross at the end. Why didn't they just set out their conditions with the dictator from the beginning?


Because that wouldn't be evil.

 

[unpainted huffheinz]

Originally Posted by Patrician

One can not really compare CR and QoS with the earlier Bond since they're not even the same "kind". Mr Flemming's earlier novels, before Dr No, were a lot more brutal and not at all the same charming Bond. As we know him.

The film James Bond persona is almost entirely a concoction of 'Dr. No' director Terence Young.

 

[rdawson808]

Originally Posted by DocHolliday

I didn't really get the point of the double cross at the end. Why didn't they just set out their conditions with the dictator from the beginning?

I think then the wanna-be dictator wouldn't have agreed to work with the guy. Right? So keep him in the dark about that supposedly worthless piece of desert until it's a done-deal. Then profit!

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