Manton
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useless, IMO.
'What about black loafers?
useless, IMO.
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'What about black loafers?
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useless, IMO.
OK, what do we replace it with, then? The black oxford is not negotiable. Since I have three shoes on the list, that leaves two slots. Or if you can think of One Shoe that does everything the black osxford does not, i am all ears. Brown bluchers are the closest thing I guess. The thing is, those are versatile, but not essential IMO. I still think the loafer, which goes from summer to winter and with tie to without tie, is a staple shoe.
That's what I thought you'd say. And is this because of a clash between the color, which connotes formality, and the fact that the shoe is a loafer, which suggests casualness?
OK, what do we replace it with, then? The black oxford is not negotiable. Since I have three shoes on the list, that leaves two slots. Or if you can think of One Shoe that does everything the black osxford does not, i am all ears. Brown bluchers are the closest thing I guess. The thing is, those are versatile, but not essential IMO. I still think the loafer, which goes from summer to winter and with tie to without tie, is a staple shoe.
I was going to say a brown derby, like a split toe, or wingtip.
No, I am saying that if you don't have these things, you can't be well dressed in the tradition of classic men's tailored clothing, no matter where you live. If you have no need or no desire to be well dressed in the tradition of classic men's tailored clothing, then obviously you don't need any of these things.
I don't know that you can make this presumption about the OP.
Don't tell me, you live in a large metropolitan city and you have a job that requires that you wear a suit and tie?
TBH most of the things that the OP suggests are completely irrelevant here, or can't even get them locally. FYI I'm a teacher in a rural Chinese state middle school, not even the headmaster wears a suit.
...but this is MC StyleForvm. not the real world. There's probably some peeps that would suggest that $5000 handmade shoes should be an essential part of every gentleman's wardrobe, and you're not properly dressed without them.
I presume the OP is assuming that one has a white-collar job and lives in a large metropolitan US city. like New York or Washington DC.
No, I am saying that if you don't have these things, you can't be well dressed in the tradition of classic men's tailored clothing, no matter where you live. If you have no need or no desire to be well dressed in the tradition of classic men's tailored clothing, then obviously you don't need any of these things.
My go to loafer is an unlined Alden for BB norwegian style in #8 shell, a super American shoe. But if you want one more formal, there are several classics in the EG catalogue. I also think Lobb Lopez is fantastic, which I have in tan and wear for the summer. My one other loafer is EG Buckingham in mink suede, for fall/winter. If I could have only one, it would be the Alden, hands down.
I guess this is the most controversial thing on the list.
Non chino just means, not like those sweatshop-made wrinkly things i wear on weekends and that I would never wear with a tie.
Wouldn't these all be often better served with (non brogued) derbys in most social situations?