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Do you remember his stance on peaks as conservative business dress?
 

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This has to be answered on regional basis. On Capital Hill, you'd obviously have to say no. In L.A. probably yes.

Some degree of relativism is necessary, but I think taking it to a subnational regional level is too far, as it prohibits us from making a statement like: Business attire in Los Angeles is more casual than it is in NYC.

With a regional approach, we lose the reference (in this case, Anglo-American dress tradition) required to make that comparison.

I do, however, agree with I think the spirit of what you are saying in that most prescriptive statements (e.g. That suit would be inappropriate at a midsized corporate law firm) would need to be made on a regional basis.
 

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Happy new year everyone! Let me wish you lots of sartorial pleasures :)


We spent NYE with great friends and these two guys:













Damn, I ate too much again

 
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Some degree of relativism is necessary, but I think taking it to a subnational regional level is too far, as it prohibits us from making a statement like: Business attire in Los Angeles is more casual than it is in NYC.

With a regional approach, we lose the reference (in this case, Anglo-American dress tradition) required to make that comparison.

I do, however, agree with I think the spirit of what you are saying in that most prescriptive statements (e.g. That suit would be inappropriate at a midsized corporate law firm) would need to be made on a regional basis.
What you are saying makes better sense and I retract my earlier statement. It is more useful to give conservative business dress a fixed universal definition and then say in which environments it is or is not necessary. But as I attempt to define it in my head it gets hard when you try to give conservative business dress a definition that includes more than one continent. For North America, I'd say that the strictest definition of conservative business dress is the sack suit, old-style Brooks Brothers cut and peak lapels would be unthinkable. But I don't think that definition crosses the Atlantic.
 

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@SYCSYC lovely fit! Is that the Hudson jacket in herringbone pattern? I wanted this one really bad but didn't really needed it, so!
 

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As one would expect, there’s discussion and debate about conservative business dress and UCBD in the Good Taste thread:

http://www.styleforum.net/t/309586/whnay-s-good-taste-thread

NMWA did a series on it:

http://nomanwalksalone.tumblr.com/post/87907708536/conservative-business-dress-chapter-1-by

NMWA has something useful to say about the geographic variation question:

“Expectations are, of course, in the eye of the expector which means there are always variations. Mine is an Anglo-American perspective, emphasis on the American, so I’m afraid you’ll probably need to go elsewhere for the specifics of what to wear to your office in Rio or Moscow or Astana, for that matter.
But the guiding principle remains the same– your clothes should go unnoticed except for conveying some vague impression that you are well put together and generally competent.”

The point is, one can usefully think of conservative business dress not as a set of approved items of apparel and combinations of these but as an intended effect on the viewer: it “should go unnoticed except for conveying some vague impression that you are well put together and generally competent.” The concept in this form has roots in 18th-century England.

Cheers,

Ac
 

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Quick photo from after the masquerade party last night! Happy New Years guys.
 

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Quick photo from after the masquerade party last night! Happy New Years guys.



That is pretty damn smashing, I must say....
 
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Happy New Year!

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