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BColl_Has_Too_Many_Shoes

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Yes. At first I thought I spilled something on them because they looked like dark moisture spots but discoloration appeared around them. Attached are the initial photos I sent to them.

I didn’t use any product on them, I brushed before and after each wear, and gave them 24 hours in between wears.

Non of these spot are an issue anymore except the big one.

I can't really identify the spot too well, as I'm on my phone, but that looks like a burnishing burn that was covered up with cream. You brushing it heated up the cream and revealed the burn.
 

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Somebody here also noted that the GC by EG shoes are made to a lower spec than EG's own offerings. I don't know how they got that information, but it makes sense price wise.
Spec seems pretty comparable to be honest and trying to define better is splitting hairs and more taste than anything. The AC line is a touch more expensive than EG. Maybe $2-300 more. Includes hinged lasted trees. $1600ish ex vat.

Not a true 1/1 comparison because different models, different leather etc. but sole stitch is about the same density, uppers are stitched about the same density and both have clean lines. Both have a half liner with some sort of thin squishy material under heel. Sock liner is different colors but feels very comparable. Uppers are both nice. Re: weight I find them fairly similar but I was curious. 17oz for EG chelsea and 16oz for the A/C Churchill. I assume at least partially driven by the tighter waist and much smaller heel block.

Would say G&G has the tightest density on the closing. EG and AC next - Maybe EG by a hair. Then Lobb Prestige and CJ Handgrade neck and neck. Sole stitch is comparable between my AC, EG, GG, JL and CJ Handgrade. Skiving is a little (noticeably?) weaker on CJ Handgrade. AC has the tightest waist, smallest heel block and slightly pitched heel but those are mainly design choices. AC has nails at the toe standard instead of plain or paying to add a toe plate. EG finishing/burnishing/etc is probably top followed by GG. If you care about extras AC definitely checks that box with nicer bags and the hinged, lasted trees.

That being said there isn’t a bad one in the bunch and they all have a space in my shoe closet and it really comes down to aesthetics, which one has a last that fits you and what you’re after in a shoe, etc.

Here’s some side by sides with EG since this is an EG thread after all.
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I bought them from a US stockist so they said told me to ask them to ship them back if they could or do it myself. The marks did start out of nowhere.
No chance you could have dropped something on them? I’ve had a couple of small marks appear when I’ve worn a pair on a night out and must have had beer or similar spilt on them.
 

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Spec seems pretty comparable to be honest and trying to define better is splitting hairs and more taste than anything. The AC line is a touch more expensive than EG. Maybe $2-300 more. Includes hinged lasted trees. $1600ish ex vat.

Not a true 1/1 comparison because different models, different leather etc. but sole stitch is about the same density, uppers are stitched about the same density and both have clean lines. Both have a half liner with some sort of thin squishy material under heel. Sock liner is different colors but feels very comparable. Uppers are both nice. Re: weight I find them fairly similar but I was curious. 17oz for EG chelsea and 16oz for the A/C Churchill. I assume at least partially driven by the tighter waist and much smaller heel block.

Would say G&G has the tightest density on the closing. EG and AC next - Maybe EG by a hair. Then Lobb Prestige and CJ Handgrade neck and neck. Sole stitch is comparable between my AC, EG, GG, JL and CJ Handgrade. Skiving is a little (noticeably?) weaker on CJ Handgrade. AC has the tightest waist, smallest heel block and slightly pitched heel but those are mainly design choices. AC has nails at the toe standard instead of plain or paying to add a toe plate. EG finishing/burnishing/etc is probably top followed by GG. If you care about extras AC definitely checks that box with nicer bags and the hinged, lasted trees.

That being said there isn’t a bad one in the bunch and they all have a space in my shoe closet and it really comes down to aesthetics, which one has a last that fits you and what you’re after in a shoe, etc.

Here’s some side by sides with EG since this is an EG thread after all.
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Well they should look similar as they are made by the same people. Provided GC is indeed using EG, EG's craftmen, their materials, their standard levels, and overall finishing should all be similar on those pairs, which it does appear that way. The design choices will differ as those are spec'd by GC. They, as mentioned, are also supplying EG their lasts.

I'm sure the leather will also remain the same (as you can confirm since you have the leathers in front of you), but not clicked to the same exacting standard. I'd also guess more shoes produced per hide.
 

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No chance you could have dropped something on them? I’ve had a couple of small marks appear when I’ve worn a pair on a night out and must have had beer or similar spilt on them.

I thought that too but they were brand new and I was looking after them and at them often. I didn’t eat or drink anything that would cause that. I knew something was up because they appeared in kind of a uniform pattern around where my foot creases the shoe so it’s like my stride was squeezing out excess moisture.
 

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I thought that too but they were brand new and I was looking after them and at them often. I didn’t eat or drink anything that would cause that. I knew something was up because they appeared in kind of a uniform pattern around where my foot creases the shoe so it’s like my stride was squeezing out excess moisture.

Have you used any products on the shoes? Conditioners, cleaners, waxes, etc?
 

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The way the mark is spreading from the edges is indicative of a spill whether it happened at the factory or accidentally whilst you wore them.
 

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Any pics of them new or just prior to the issue showing up?

Unfortunately I didn’t take any photos other than this one. There was no visible defect in them when I got them.
 

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Been looking through the thread but you guys talk too damn much!

How formal are you with your dark oak Dovers? I feel like they would work with some denim, but not all, but it's also a weird look with anything else than a suit or proper trousers.

Is it just me being inexperienced and seen them with slimmer denim, or is there something to it? Inherently I don't find them very formal.
 

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Been looking through the thread but you guys talk too damn much!

How formal are you with your dark oak Dovers? I feel like they would work with some denim, but not all, but it's also a weird look with anything else than a suit or proper trousers.

Is it just me being inexperienced and seen them with slimmer denim, or is there something to it? Inherently I don't find them very formal.
Doak are far too formal for me to work with denim. I mainly pair my Dover 606 CC with flannels and wool trousers.
 

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Been looking through the thread but you guys talk too damn much!

How formal are you with your dark oak Dovers? I feel like they would work with some denim, but not all, but it's also a weird look with anything else than a suit or proper trousers.

Is it just me being inexperienced and seen them with slimmer denim, or is there something to it? Inherently I don't find them very formal.
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Doak are far too formal for me to work with denim. I mainly pair my Dover 606 CC with flannels and wool trousers.
I'd say DOAKs, regardless of iteration, will typically exhibit a radiance. That doesn't tend to pair well with denim. I have seen them paired with dressier denim, though, from guys posting on here. It looks okay.
 

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