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Bespoke jeans? What next - bespoke overalls? Or Bespoke stubbies?
Here's my second pair of overalls in the Dugdale Royal Classic - Light Grey Birdseye. A couple things off: the waistband is split, and is about an inch and a half too high, but other than that, I'm pretty happy. Think on the next pair we'll get rid of the side buttons and make the whole vest portion a little more low profile. The shirt is also from Luxire: Classic Blue Oxford with hidden placket, hidden button down, single link cuffs.



 

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Thank you for confiriming that this looks as ridiculous as it sounds.
 

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http://www.canberratimes.com.au/fed...ffice-you-demean-yourself-20140505-37rn7.html

A bit of an extreme position taken by this writer. Thoughts?

"Yet suits are nothing more than symbols: empty expressions of wealth and authority. They were first worn by middle-class British dandies trying to pass themselves off as aristocrats, and I'd argue that nothing's changed in the 200 years since"


Trouble is, there are no aristocrats here to pass oneself off as (at least not until TA really revs up the K&D scheme).

Truth is, in most Australian workplaces you don't need to wear a suit and tie, but some people still do. That can only be because they want to, in which case this blogger is wrong.
 

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http://www.canberratimes.com.au/fed...ffice-you-demean-yourself-20140505-37rn7.html

A bit of an extreme position taken by this writer. Thoughts?

"Yet suits are nothing more than symbols: empty expressions of wealth and authority. They were first worn by middle-class British dandies trying to pass themselves off as aristocrats, and I'd argue that nothing's changed in the 200 years since"
These articles are sounding really hollow and repetitive. Same old arguments. Judge me for what I do, not how I dress (sure, buddy). The tie is dead. Individual self-expression instead of conformism. Anachronistic dress code. Uncomfortable.

Anything I have missed?

Shallow arguments never ever consider the irony of their assertions, let alone consideration of arguments against. For example, I would wager that more people wear jeans than suits. Is that not conformism? How about tattoos, earrings, piercings? Is that not totally decorative, just like the tie, sans the pain? Are tight jeans and polyester jackets more comfortable?
 

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http://www.canberratimes.com.au/fed...ffice-you-demean-yourself-20140505-37rn7.html

A bit of an extreme position taken by this writer. Thoughts?

"Yet suits are nothing more than symbols: empty expressions of wealth and authority. They were first worn by middle-class British dandies trying to pass themselves off as aristocrats, and I'd argue that nothing's changed in the 200 years since"


As for the author and his thoughts IMHO another middle class wanker full of his own self importance in search of an audience.
 
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"Yet suits are nothing more than symbols: empty expressions of wealth and authority. They were first worn by middle-class British dandies trying to pass themselves off as aristocrats, and I'd argue that nothing's changed in the 200 years since"

This dude. Left his fact-checker at home.
 

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Weak article. I used to work with Steedman post his MP life. He used to drive a late model Jag. And lived in a very big house in Camberwell plus holiday house at coast - not in his electorate which was ageing hippies in the hills in those days. None of them wore RMWs either. He only held the seat for one year. Family money and married into money as well. The jeans and leather jacket was a calculated presentation to appear like the "common man". It was no cavalier dress sense. Not to say he didn't like wearing it.
 
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These articles are sounding really hollow and repetitive. Same old arguments. Judge me for what I do, not how I dress (sure, buddy). The tie is dead. Individual self-expression instead of conformism. Anachronistic dress code. Uncomfortable.

Anything I have missed?

Shallow arguments never ever consider the irony of their assertions, let alone consideration of arguments against. For example, I would wager that more people wear jeans than suits.  Is that not conformism? How about tattoos, earrings, piercings? Is that not totally decorative, just like the tie, sans the pain? Are tight jeans and polyester jackets more comfortable? 



Well said.

At the risk of stepping on to GF's sociological turf, all clothing has some significance of some relevance - nothing we wear is entirely devoid of meaning and thus all clothing contains some sort of message, although the message can be different depending on the "audience".

If I were to wear a tracksuit to work instead of a business suit, I'd be sending a message, just as if I wore a pair of jeans and a leather jacket.

As you said, a lot of people disdain wearing a suit and tie, and yet they choose to make uncomfortable and constrictive fashion/style choices that nonetheless label them members of a particular group or groups.
 

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This article seems rather contradictory given that it is written by a man who is wearing a suit (sans tie).
 
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