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Any Ivy League Graduates?

Discussion in 'Business, Careers & Education' started by FormalFashion08, Oct 19, 2008.

  1. FormalFashion08

    FormalFashion08 Well-Known Member

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    I'm an aspiring Ivy League student (Columbia),and I was wondering if there are any members on here that can share their experiences with their education. How did the degree treat you afterwards? A gift that keeps on giving, or in your case, a gift that keeps on paying *weak grammar, but I am winding down.
     
  2. dirk diggler

    dirk diggler Well-Known Member

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    Grad of Penn. education paid off huge. got into all of the top law schools, plenty of job offers, life is good.
     
  3. rach2jlc

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    Don't get me started.

    Short answer: do the best you can; if it works out, great. But, don't be disappointed if it doesn't and realize you can get a very good education at schools outside the "ivy leagues."

    University "penis envy" doesn't really count for much in the real world and really, after you graduate, VERY few people (if anybody) care where you went. Perhaps this is different by major/concentration, but at least in my area (humanities/education) I don't think it matters at the end of the day except to "impress" people at parties. There are lots of college-age people around this forum, so talk about where you went and such probably seems a lot more important than it will in the real world.

    Wherever you go, do the best, hardest work you can and always stay busy doing as much as you can. A guy from Michigan state/Kansas State/Wherever State who worked his ass off, has excellent internships/research/grades/projects/publications will probably look/do better than a Harvard kid who just barely squeezed by.

    Just my opinion, of course, though perhaps the best thing about the "ivies" are the resources for study and the network/connections you make as a student.
     
  4. Connemara

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    i'd die for a Princeton or Yale BA. It would solidify my elitist credentials to the point of irrefutability. [​IMG]
     
  5. bluemagic

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    Whether or not going to a traditionally elite private school (not just Ivy) is for you or not depends on your personality type. I would recommend talking more in real life to alumni or current students of colleges you are interested in attending, and seeing if you are that kind of person. Going to an Ivy was the right choice for me, in terms of intellectual, social as well as personal development. That said, it would have been the wrong choice for many of my friends in H.S. who did actually choose the (very good) flagship state university over some good Ivies.
     
  6. bach

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    Whether or not going to a traditionally elite private school (not just Ivy) is for you or not depends on your personality type. I would recommend talking more in real life to alumni or current students of colleges you are interested in attending, and seeing if you are that kind of person. Going to an Ivy was the right choice for me, in terms of intellectual, social as well as personal development. That said, it would have been the wrong choice for many of my friends in H.S. who did actually choose the (very good) flagship state university over some good Ivies.

    i am kicking myself as i read this. i'm a freshman at such a state university. it's intolerable, anti-intellectual, and i can't wait to transfer.

    what do you mean when you say "that kind of person"?
     
  7. FormalFashion08

    FormalFashion08 Well-Known Member

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    Grad of Penn. education paid off huge. got into all of the top law schools, plenty of job offers, life is good.
    W.hen was this? Things are way different now

    Upenn -- undergrad?

    Or how did it go for you

    Damn, i relaly need sleep
     
  8. cheessus

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    I went to UVA over Penn, Brown, and Dartmouth. Best life decision so far.
     
  9. bluemagic

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    i am kicking myself as i read this. i'm a freshman at such a state university. it's intolerable, anti-intellectual, and i can't wait to transfer.

    what do you mean when you say "that kind of person"?


    Some people simply aren't intellectual. I am, but most are not, and would not take advantage of the opportunities available at a school such as mine. Even most of the people at my school aren't purely "intellectual"; this isn't some kind of thinkers' bohemia (you'd have to wait for a PhD program for that), but I do think the vast majority of people here have that element in them.

    I think it really comes down to this; would you rather have a conversation with people from a state school, or a traditional elite private school? I'd rather have the conversation with the latter, but many people would rather talk to the former. It doesn't mean anything positive or negative, it's just a preference.
     
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    I went to UVA over Penn, Brown, and Dartmouth. Best life decision so far.
    Well, UVa is in some ways more "Ivy" than some Ivies. I think it's terrific, by the way, and D.C. is run by UVa grads. What did you study there?
     
  11. Connemara

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    In all seriousness, my major department at my non-Ivy university (Ohio State) matches up very well with that of any Ivy school. A number of our senior professors were culled from Yale, Harvard and Chicago during the 1990's. We also have the best military history program in the nation, bar none.
     
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    In all seriousness, my major department at my non-Ivy university (Ohio State) matches up very well with that of any Ivy school. A number of our senior professors were culled from Yale, Harvard and Chicago during the 1990's. We also have the best military history program in the nation, bar none.

    What are you studying?
     
  13. bluemagic

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    What courses are you taking this semester, Conne?
     
  14. rach2jlc

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    What courses are you taking this semester, Conne?
    Introduction to Queer Theory Transgender Studies Introduction to Song and Dance Theatrical History 102: Vaudeville to Broadway Anyway, in all seriousness, one of the things that I like about SF is that it is always a healthy, but humbling, experience that is good for ALL of us. For example, no matter what the topic, there is almost always guaranteed to be a poster who knows more, has more, or IS more in just about every way. It's a healthy check for the ego and I think it's especially good when it comes to "Ivies." There are posters here who have gone to literally every "good" school in the nation/world and, while there, have done so much amazing stuff that it both amazes and infuriates you! There are also members who went to non-ivy schools who also are doing VERY well in life and got as much... or more... from their education. It's good for keeping things in perspective. Same with shoes... you think you are doing well and then aportnoy comes along. Same with literally everything around here from martial arts to workout schedules to suits to decorative walrus penises...
     
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    That's actually pretty balanced among different distribution requirements.
     
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    Introduction to Queer Theory
    Transgender Studies
    Introduction to Song and Dance
    Theatrical History 102: Vaudeville to Broadway

    That's pretty good rach. You've been waiting to use that, haven't you?
     
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    of the ivies, i only like harvard, yale, princeton

    mit is the best though

    stanford and caltech are good, but too west coast and nouveau riche for me
     
  18. bluemagic

    bluemagic Well-Known Member

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    of the ivies, i only like harvard, yale, princeton

    mit is the best though

    stanford and caltech are good, but too west coast and nouveau riche for me


    Your rationale for not liking the other schools? And why is MIT the best?
     
  19. rach2jlc

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    That's pretty good rach. You've been waiting to use that, haven't you?
    When it comes to making fun of Conne, every post is like a parade. Yes, one of "those" kinds of parades.
    Your rationale for not liking the other schools? And why is MIT the best?
    +1. I've learned never to be too quick to jump at posters for whom I don't know their full histories (because maybe he went to all of them!), but unless one actually attended all of those schools, I think it's hard to speak about "liking" or "disliking" them in any sort of objective way.
     
  20. kwilkinson

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    Your rationale for not liking the other schools? And why is MIT the best?

    Not to mention that MIT, Stanford, and CalTech aren't even in the Ivy League.
     

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