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Manton · Jan 10, 2012

I used to love Greysac and found it very reliable. What the hell happened to it?

tagutcow · Jan 10, 2012

gomestar · Jan 10, 2012

I've had a number of bottles from 2005+, including some from Z's that were like $8.

None were particularly good, though. I thought it was me...

kwilkinson · Jan 10, 2012

Had it on my list at first. After about two months, I took it off. Bottle variation with Greysac is enormous. And none of them were corked or anything, so I couldn't get credit. I was just sick of having to open 5 bottles for every 3 ordered. And even when it's a "good" bottle, it isn't that good, it's just inoffensive.

Eustace · Jan 11, 2012

What year did you have, Manton? I had the '07 last week and found it very drinkable for the price. It's not great, but for $12 Bordeaux what do you expect?

Manton · Jan 11, 2012

I had an '06 last night. Already rotting from the inside out.

Another thing, they seem to be Napa-fying it with every subsequent vintage. I like Napa wine but that's not why buy Bordeaux.

Eustace · Jan 11, 2012

Damn. Sorry to hear that. Maybe Kwilk is right RE: bottle variation too. I have another '07. I'll probably drink it tomorrow and report back.

gomestar · Jan 11, 2012

i, too, have noticed a lot of bottle variability with Greysac.

kwilkinson · Jan 11, 2012

gomestar said:
i, too, have noticed a lot of bottle variability with Greysac.

I think you (or someone in the IC) warned me about that before I bought it. Shoulda listened!

gomestar · Jan 11, 2012

kwilkinson said:
I think you (or someone in the IC) warned me about that before I bought it. Shoulda listened!

it was. I said it's solid (but I don't remember if I meant it as if I thought it was solid or if it's a soild choice for a wine list), that Manton is a fran, but that I've had some really weird bottle variability from them.

Manton · Jan 11, 2012

Greysac used to be a light style, mild fruit, more velvet, perfume & spice that was designed for early maturation (10 years max) and that mimicked the flavors of great bordeaux at its plateau. It was a wine that showed many of the traits of perfectly rounded and aged Bord without any of the profundity. But sinice I love those particular aging traits, to me it was a go-to.

Now it is much fruitier, much "cabbier" and does not age nearly as well.

Suckholes.

erictheobscure · Jan 11, 2012

kwilkinson said:
And even when it's a "good" bottle, it isn't that good, it's just inoffensive.

This was my experience when I bought a bottle of Greysac (2007? '08?) a few months ago--I recall based on your recommendation (thanks a lot). It was drinkable and boring.

kwilkinson · Jan 11, 2012

erictheobscure said:
This was my experience when I bought a bottle of Greysac (2007? '08?) a few months ago--I recall based on your recommendation (thanks a lot). It was drinkable and boring.

You can now proudly join the ranks of people, both on sf and irl, that have been disappointed in my wine recommendations :laugh:

Manton · Jan 11, 2012

FAIK, I was the original Greysac pimp on SF. I swear, it used to be good.

erictheobscure · Jan 11, 2012

kwilkinson said:
You can now proudly join the ranks of people, both on sf and irl, that have been disappointed in my wine recommendations

No problem (if it even was your rec in the first place and not manton's). Recommending wines with one testis must be tough.

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