Thanks for the info- this is very helpful. If I purchase them, I will likely go through Bakers in OR. It might fun to try Whites as my last 2 shoe orders have been Vibergs.I’m a 11.5 in the 2030 for sure - perfect fit. An 11.5D in a Whites MP/Mod Barrie last is a snug but good fit. A 12D is a bit more relaxed. The sizing is very close but if your snug in your fav. 2030 size I’d go up a half. The 2030 is very much a Whites D width though.