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The World Cup starts in 5 days...

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by benecios, Jun 5, 2006.

  1. montecristo#4

    montecristo#4 Well-Known Member

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    It tells you everything useful when the original point was that they need helmets,padding etc...because the big guys are hitting the little guys.If the little guys don't even get on the field then that argument is non existent.
    As I said I know very little about it apart from outside of the USA nobody could give a toss about it.Whereas outside of the USA,football is a phenomenom,with billions upon billions of fans.
    One final point when I have watched US football the players do about 5 minutes and get dragged off blowing out of their arses but the rugby lads do the full 80 minutes.


    Rugby is a waste of time "tweener" sport between the man's game (football) and the beautiful game (football).
     
  2. waldo pepper

    waldo pepper Well-Known Member

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    I like both rugby and American football. They are both tough, physical games. In rugby, endurance is more of a factor. American football, however, is more dangerous.

    Ok..I put up a good fight but I will stand corrected,you obvoiusly know your stuff.[​IMG]
    1 day 21 hours 52 minutes[​IMG]
     
  3. waldo pepper

    waldo pepper Well-Known Member

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    Rugby is a waste of time "tweener" sport between the man's game (football) and the beautiful game (football).
    Do you mean US football or football?
     
  4. tommib

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    I'm English and I hate the weeks when everyone goes football mental.

    Imagine having to see cars with the England flag driving around everywhere and yobs shouting and chanting in the street. Where I live football hooligans are a real nuisance, they're intimidating as well.

    To the person who said England have got a good track record, think again. They should all be sent to some kind of makeshift alcatraz. Maybe build a giant wall around wolverhampton or something and put them all in there. Then we could get some peace and quiet.

    And if England go out in an early round, I'm going to be scared to leave my house. Oh yeah and watch Football Factory, not Green Street, its rubbish!

    T
     
  5. waldo pepper

    waldo pepper Well-Known Member

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    Well, fine. It wasn't my intention to debate which sport is "better" or even "more manly", both of which seem pretty pointless. Just to point out that you were seizing on "fact" that weren't particularly accurate (understandable in discussing a game you don't follow and don't give a "toss" about)

    Well fascism isnt great is it?

    The original point was that US F is tougher than rugby because big guys hit little guys,by looking on the roster it PROVED that the difference between the biggest and smallest was not much different to rugby therefore disproving the theory.

    I don't even particularly like rugby I just get tired of Americans getting on their high horses about sports that nobody outside the US plays.
     
  6. korinkahn

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    This is America no one cares about soccer.
     
  7. waldo pepper

    waldo pepper Well-Known Member

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    This is America no one cares about soccer.

    Let hope it stays like that because you would only ruin it!
     
  8. romafan

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    I don't expect you to like DiCanio with you being a Roma fan but when the guy played in England he was a breath of fresh air.
    He was responsible for one of the greatest acts of sportsmanship I have seen,when a cross came in and he had an opportunity to score in an empty net but caught the ball because the keeper was down injured.
    As for being a fascist,its not great but at least he admits it instead of hiding.


    Di Canio is indeed an interesting blend of contradictions - an honorable beast, as it were. Although an animal, he is quite talented and there is no doubt he is a man of fiercely held convictions. The action you describe does not surprise me, nor am surprised when I watch him shove referees and slap opposing players in the face.

    This season Daniele De Rossi scored (either tying the game or putting Roma ahead), but refused to allow the referee to bring the ball back to the circle, insisting that that the goal must be disallowed because he had inadvertently handled the ball....
     
  9. waldo pepper

    waldo pepper Well-Known Member

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    We get live Serie A games here in England and I have to say I have a soft spot for Roma.I am a Man Utd fan by the way.

    DiCanio is made for Lazio I think,there seems to be lot going on there.I was always fascinated by the relationship between Mijhailovic and the fans.
     
  10. Spudbunny

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    I am a Man Utd fan by the way..

    What a surprise! You and all the other soccer moms.

    I was always fascinated by the relationship between Mijhailovic and the fans.

    You certainly seem to have a soft spot for fascists, Herr Pepper. This would be the same Mijhailovic who during a game called the gifted French midfielder, Patrick Veira, a "monkey." Need I mentioned that Viera is of African heritage?

    On a brighter note, the Irish journalist, Patrick Agnew has just published a new book on Serie A. The title in the USA is Forza Italia.
     
  11. Tokyo Slim

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    The original point was that US F is tougher than rugby because big guys hit little guys,by looking on the roster it PROVED that the difference between the biggest and smallest was not much different to rugby therefore disproving the theory. I don't even particularly like rugby I just get tired of Americans getting on their high horses about sports that nobody outside the US plays.
    Actually that was never the point. The original point is that Football v.s. Rugby is an unfair comparison. I am tired of rugby players getting on their high horses and telling people that American Football players are less manly than Rugby players because they wear armor. The game is totally different, and the weight difference between the players makes much more of an impact than you think it does. You get hit alot harder in the NFL than you probably ever would playing rugby, and by bigger guys. You said that there were 2 players on your rugby team that were 280lbs? There are 19 players on the Seahawks roster that "officially" weigh more than that. Generally, players fudge and are actually playing heavier than they list, so there are potentially over 20 players on our roster that play at, near, or well above three hundred pounds. The Seahawks aren't that "big" of a team either. Our offensive and defense lines are often considered "undersized". The difference between the heaviest current NFL player at 393 lbs (the actual 2005 midseason playing weight of Toniu Fonoti who plays for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers) and Bill Cavubati (the heaviest rugby player) at 357lbs is pretty large when you are talking about them hitting anyone with their full body weight. 357lbs is probably just a handful of pounds above the average weight of an offensive lineman in the NFL. In 2003, there were 321 players in the league over 300lbs. There are undoubtedly more now, I just can't find the numbers to back it up, I'd be very suprised if its gone down though. Anyways, I just thought I'd clear that up, I wouldn't want you to besmirch the intentions of my original post. Oh, and I'm only a Manchester United fan until Ruud leaves, and then I'll be a fan of wherever he ends up.
     
  12. romafan

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    We get live Serie A games here in England and I have to say I have a soft spot for Roma.I am a Man Utd fan by the way.

    DiCanio is made for Lazio I think,there seems to be lot going on there.I was always fascinated by the relationship between Mijhailovic and the fans.


    Di Canio talks a big Lazioforever game, but he's ready to jump ship after the they failed to back him up in the two 'heil hitler' episodes. Compare his peripatetic career to Totti's for club dedication and devotion....[​IMG]

    Sinisa Mihajlovic is a superb free kick specialist, and a complete beast of a player - yes, the curva nord loved him dearly, and I'm sure the Leganord fanatics at Inter are glad to have him [​IMG]
     
  13. waldo pepper

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    What a surprise! You and all the other soccer moms.



    You certainly seem to have a soft spot for fascists, Herr Pepper. This would be the same Mijhailovic who during a game called the gifted French midfielder, Patrick Veira, a "monkey." Need I mentioned that Viera is of African heritage?

    On a brighter note, the Irish journalist, Patrick Agnew has just published a new book on Serie A. The title in the USA is Forza Italia.


    My grandfather and father support Utd,I was born 4 miles from Old Trafford and now live 6 miles from OT so who do you expect me to support.
    I never said I liked Sinisa I just commented how his relationship with the fans was incerdibly political which is something you would never see here.

    As for Vieira he deserves all he gets,he is just a bully who met his match in Roy Keane and shit himself!
     
  14. waldo pepper

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    Need I mentioned that Viera is of African heritage.

    Yeah born and raised in Senegal but plays for France because he thinks he might have more chance of winning something.That tells you something about the guy.
     
  15. borace

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    I'm English and I hate the weeks when everyone goes football mental.

    Imagine having to see cars with the England flag driving around everywhere and yobs shouting and chanting in the street. Where I live football hooligans are a real nuisance, they're intimidating as well.

    To the person who said England have got a good track record, think again. They should all be sent to some kind of makeshift alcatraz. Maybe build a giant wall around wolverhampton or something and put them all in there. Then we could get some peace and quiet.

    And if England go out in an early round, I'm going to be scared to leave my house. Oh yeah and watch Football Factory, not Green Street, its rubbish!

    T


    Amen to that, the sooner England is knocked out the happier I'll be. Perhaps then we can get back to normal. I really wish I'd taken my holidays in the US for the next few weeks.
     
  16. waldo pepper

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    Amen to that, the sooner England is knocked out the happier I'll be. Perhaps then we can get back to normal. I really wish I'd taken my holidays in the US for the next few weeks.

    I am assuming you are English,if that is the case,then you should take your 3 weeks in the US and stay there permanently.
    I am English and want England to do well in anything we participate in.
     
  17. borace

    borace Well-Known Member

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    I am assuming you are English.

    Hello Waldo,
    Yes I am indeed English and I live in London, home of the League Champions.[​IMG]
     
  18. waldo pepper

    waldo pepper Well-Known Member

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    Hello Waldo,
    Yes I am indeed English and I live in London, home of the League Champions.[​IMG]


    I thought you didnt like football.
    Chelsea could win the league for the next 50 years and the moment Roman pulls his cash out they will be back to being what they always were,an average club on the brink.
     
  19. tiger02

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    Let hope it stays like that because you would only ruin it!
    True, whiny snots bitch every time Americans dominate at something. Would *you* go up for a header against Shaq?
     
  20. waldo pepper

    waldo pepper Well-Known Member

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    True, whiny snots bitch every time Americans dominate at something. Would *you* go up for a header against Shaq?

    I would have a go,they call me the salmon at my amateur team.[​IMG]
    I don't fancy my chances though,maybe Peter Crouch or Jan Koller could have a go,don't fancy their chances either.[​IMG]
     

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