The State of Black Tie: Your Observations

[classicalthunde]

His is obviously not, but something about them just look...cheap? Polyester-y?

I've always thought that facings on black/midnight tuxedos bring a "pop" to an otherwise dark and somber looking outfit.

When the jacket is cream or a blue/maroon/bottle green velvet there isn't really the same need to add a "pop" to liven up the outfit since the base fabric is already pretty attention grabbing

 

[bdhazman]

I'm having an ivory dinner jacket made for my wedding in May. I'm going with a single breasted, one-button, peak lapel jacket and black tuxedo pants. The material is going to be a lightweight wool. Would people still recommend doing self-facing?
I don't want the jacket to look like its just a white sport coat with peak lapels but I also have seen that lots of classic examples of a white dinner jacket (Sean Connery in Goldfinger for example) are self-facing. Follow up, do you still do covered buttons on a self-faced dinner jacket?

 

[Faux Brummell]

I'm having an ivory dinner jacket made for my wedding in May. I'm going with a single breasted, one-button, peak lapel jacket and black tuxedo pants. The material is going to be a lightweight wool. Would people still recommend doing self-facing?
I don't want the jacket to look like its just a white sport coat with peak lapels but I also have seen that lots of classic examples of a white dinner jacket (Sean Connery in Goldfinger for example) are self-facing. Follow up, do you still do covered buttons on a self-faced dinner jacket?

Self-facing definitely seems to be the most classic option, though I recently learned on another forum that silk facings were more common than I realized, and that even the dinner jacket in Casablanca had silk facings, which really surprised me.

 

[classicalthunde]

I'm having an ivory dinner jacket made for my wedding in May. I'm going with a single breasted, one-button, peak lapel jacket and black tuxedo pants. The material is going to be a lightweight wool. Would people still recommend doing self-facing?
I don't want the jacket to look like its just a white sport coat with peak lapels but I also have seen that lots of classic examples of a white dinner jacket (Sean Connery in Goldfinger for example) are self-facing. Follow up, do you still do covered buttons on a self-faced dinner jacket?

yes, would still do self-facing...if anything maybe add some turnback cuffs if you really want to differentiate it

you could do self facing, I think I've also seen mother of pearl too...

 

[acconrad]

You are very kind. For a cream linen shawl lapel dinner jacket, I think it is better to have it be self-faced, meaning the lapels are simply the same fabric as the jacket itself. If that Brooks Brothers jacket is your size, I'd say you should go for it.

Are these jackets normally lined? I noticed this jacket is lined, which feels like it's defeating the purpose of being a summer-appropriate black tie jacket. What should I be looking for if the real goal is a lighter tuxedo jacket for a hot summer outing?