The Official Dieworkwear Appreciation Thread

[double00]

Seems as weird a thread as any, so perfect to ask here lol.

Has anybody come across silk/linen blend dress socks out there (OTC) by chance?

Mid-Calf Linen and Silk Blend Multi-Stripe Dress Sock

A classic sock, perfect for the modern gentleman who cares about the style and comfort details. 65% Linen, 35% Silk

www.theandovershop.com

 

[DorianGreen]

Seems as weird a thread as any, so perfect to ask here lol.

Has anybody come across silk/linen blend dress socks out there (OTC) by chance?

Strange that nobody has reprimanded you for having posted in the wrong thread, it seems that here are more tolerant people.

As for the socks, I don't know of any in that blend, but my experience with linen socks has been rather negative (they are prone to get holes and don't maintain the shape). I wear preferably wool socks, also in summer, but you would find a good alternative with different kinds of cotton and cotton/silk blends. I can recommend Pantherella, Bresciani, Sozzi, Ciocca, Palatino, Gammarelli and Mazarin, which is the home brand of Mes Chaussettes Rouges.

 

[am55]

🤣 free Healthcare exists only for lazy and stupid people. I live in Sweden, a country with "free" health care. My tax rate on my pay is 60+% and then there is VAT of 25% on almost everything.
Healthcare is funded from tax money, so it's free only for those who sit on welfare

How do you reach a marginal rate of 60%? This link has the top rate at 52.46% for anything above ~22k EUR/month which of course is but a ceiling since everything below that amount would be taxed at the lower rates of the lower bands.

Yes, that's pretty brutal compared to the rate in Singapore where the top marginal income tax rate is 24% for anything above your first SGD million yearly (~57k EUR/month), with that first million in this case taxed at ~20% total. But I've rarely seen countries go above 50% other than for show, I'm curious every time. The most ridiculous I know of is Britain in 1974 where income from investments was taxed at 98% in the top band, £221,741 in 2021 money according to Wikipedia.

 

[ladislav.jancik]

How do you reach a marginal rate of 60%? This link has the top rate at 52.46% for anything above ~22k EUR/month which of course is but a ceiling since everything below that amount would be taxed at the lower rates of the lower bands.

I think if you want to calculate total tax paid to state you need to take into consideration the total employer cost (the total cost of employee work), i.e. according your link:

328550 - 250000 = 78550 (paid to state by employer) + 131147 (employee contribution) = 209697 SEK total paid to state.
Which is (209697 / 328550) x 100 = 63.82%

 

[am55]

I think if you want to calculate total tax paid to state you need to take into consideration the total employer cost (the total cost of employee work), i.e. according your link:

328550 - 250000 = 78550 (paid to state by employer) + 131147 (employee contribution) = 209697 SEK total paid to state.
Which is (209697 / 328550) x 100 = 63.82%

So 23% of the TC is paid to state by employer, but that presumably covers pensions, and is in any case in line with European average of 20.7% [1] and only twice global average for high earner (>$300k) of 13%.

It looks like Sweden uses (mostly?) a fully funded defined contribution pension system using individual accounts [2]. I think you can make accusations of wild socialism only in the case of an unfunded "spread the love" pot system; a person that has an individual account however is just forced to use a state-run investment product instead of their own (and forced to contribute) but that is not equivalent to the state having a free run of how to spend that money (laws can and have been changed but that's a separate topic - it's very hard to do politically).

Google further puts that contribution at 18.5% of gross income so that'd be SEK 46250 to "add back" to your calculation (admittedly not sure where it is taken - in Singapore it's both employee and employer):
328550 - 250000 = 78550 (paid to state by employer) + 131147 (employee contribution) - 46250 (it's your individual account you get back eventually) = 163447 SEK total paid to state, tax rate of 49%.

[1] https://www.uhy.com/wp-content/uplo...-depth-study-Employment-Taxes-Report.2022.pdf

[2] https://economy-finance.ec.europa.eu/system/files/2021-05/se_-_ar_2021_final_pension_fiche.pdf

 

[ericgereghty]

Strange that nobody has reprimanded you for having posted in the wrong thread, it seems that here are more tolerant people.

As for the socks, I don't know of any in that blend, but my experience with linen socks has been rather negative (they are prone to get holes and don't maintain the shape). I wear preferably wool socks, also in summer, but you would find a good alternative with different kinds of cotton and cotton/silk blends. I can recommend Pantherella, Bresciani, Sozzi, Ciocca, Palatino, Gammarelli and Mazarin, which is the home brand of Mes Chaussettes Rouges.

I mean, this isn't exactly a particular thread, though I assume yours was said tongue in cheek. In any event, gotta either lean into it and accept the jokes, or stop

@double00 ok, now to find it in a design I would ever consider wearing

 

[taxgenius]

🤣 free Healthcare exists only for lazy and stupid people. I live in Sweden, a country with "free" health care. My tax rate on my pay is 60+% and then there is VAT of 25% on almost everything.
Healthcare is funded from tax money, so it's free only for those who sit on welfare

Just curious, would you prefer the American way?

 

[St1X]

How do you reach a marginal rate of 60%? This link has the top rate at 52.46% for anything above ~22k EUR/month which of course is but a ceiling since everything below that amount would be taxed at the lower rates of the lower bands.

It's a combined tax rate on my salary plus employment tax, which is 31,2% on your salary. So if you make 10k EUR, your employer actually pays 13.2k EUR. 9-12% of employment tax goes to your pension, though. So not all of it is a tax. But pension here is also a "scam" - it's an "investment" with a -99% return rate in my case.

 

[St1X]

Just curious, would you prefer the American way?

In my personal case? Yes.
Overall - hell no.

 

[Spaghettimatt]

Seems as weird a thread as any, so perfect to ask here lol.

Has anybody come across silk/linen blend dress socks out there (OTC) by chance?

https://oconnellsclothing.com/linen-silk-mid-calf-bresciani-ribbed-socks-magenta-38088-xc57u004-8946.html

Not OTC though. Seems like it's a rare blend from Bresciani.

 

[double00]

I mean, this isn't exactly a particular thread, though I assume yours was said tongue in cheek. In any event, gotta either lean into it and accept the jokes, or stop

@double00 ok, now to find it in a design I would ever consider wearing

lol fair enough !

i think it's going to be a tall order in to find robust options in only silk n linen . sock yarn is a niche product to begin with , your idea might be a bit specific in this market .

i'm interested in why you are looking for this particular blend ? fwiw i've used silk n linen in projects in the past ( including an absolutely beautiful yarn ) but more for a weaving type application ... what is driving your search if you don't mind ?

 

[ericgereghty]

lol fair enough !

i think it's going to be a tall order in to find robust options in only silk n linen . sock yarn is a niche product to begin with , your idea might be a bit specific in this market .

i'm interested in why you are looking for this particular blend ? fwiw i've used silk n linen in projects in the past ( including an absolutely beautiful yarn ) but more for a weaving type application ... what is driving your search if you don't mind ?

Curiosity as much as anything. Well, desire, too. I have the usual #menswear socks (silk, linen, wool + wool blends, cotton/silk, cashmere/silk...and plain old cotton haha) and the combo has always struck me as an interesting pairing.
Linen is a bit too casual, by design, of course. Silk is a bit delicate/precious. I'd think a mixture of the two could maintain the beauty of silk but add in perhaps a bit more durability thanks to the linen...without compromising the benefits of linen.

But, alas...not a bounty of options.

 

[smittycl]

Curiosity as much as anything. Well, desire, too. I have the usual #menswear socks (silk, linen, wool + wool blends, cotton/silk, cashmere/silk...and plain old cotton haha) and the combo has always struck me as an interesting pairing.
Linen is a bit too casual, by design, of course. Silk is a bit delicate/precious. I'd think a mixture of the two could maintain the beauty of silk but add in perhaps a bit more durability thanks to the linen...without compromising the benefits of linen.

But, alas...not a bounty of options.

Navy is sold out at the moment but will likely be restocked. I wear linen CM for work in the summer and these work very well.

Linen Ribbed Long Socks - The Armoury

 

[ericgereghty]

Navy is sold out at the moment but will likely be restocked. I wear linen CM for work in the summer and these work very well.

Linen Ribbed Long Socks - The Armoury

Cheers. Yep, big fan of linen socks. Picked up a few black ones from Shibumi. Like the anachronistic dynamic of them.

 

[ChetB]

i’ve been enjoying derek’s new-ish podcast with Blamo, recommended if you haven’t checked it out!