The Official Dieworkwear Appreciation Thread

[tgaith77]

I imagine the person who wears AE Strandmoks always swaps out the laces for "fun" ones and uses the word dapper regularly.

 

[tim_horton]

The overriding theme in all these histories, however, is that the sport coat was considered casual and often sporty. They were traditionally worn with similarly casual shoes. Today, we think of the sport coat as dressy because the needle has moved towards a much more casual wardrobe.

How people perceive something is how that thing is... Sport coats and tailored trousers are somewhat dressy now, because that is how people perceive them. When I wear a navy jacket and grey trousers to work, people ask (or used to ask) me why I'm dressed up. Which may be one reason why I'm fine wearing oxfords in such a situation... especially if I'm on the road and only want to pack one or two pairs of shoes.

I do think a more modern interpretation of the rule we're discussed can be "oxfords only with tailored clothing." I'd never wear them with even the sharpest jeans, regardless of the color or material, including suede.

Also, sorry if I'm beating a dead horse, I don't know why I find this topic so interesting.

 

[dieworkwear]

How people perceive something is how that thing is... Sport coats and tailored trousers are somewhat dressy now, because that is how people perceive them. When I wear a navy jacket and grey trousers to work, people ask (or used to ask) me why I'm dressed up. Which may be one reason why I'm fine wearing oxfords in such a situation... especially if I'm on the road and only want to pack one or two pairs of shoes.

I do think a more modern interpretation of the rule we're discussed can be "oxfords only with tailored clothing." I'd never wear them with even the sharpest jeans, regardless of the color or material, including suede.

Also, sorry if I'm beating a dead horse, I don't know why I find this topic so interesting.

If we take it to be true that sport coats are often considered to be overdressed in most environments today, then wouldn't you want to wear the most casual shoes possible, so as to show that this is a relaxed and casual thing? Open collared shirt, no tie, sport coat, odd trousers, and then a casual shoe like loafers or derbies?

 

[tim_horton]

If we take it to be true that sport coats are often considered to be overdressed in most environments today, then wouldn't you want to wear the most casual shoes possible, so as to show that this is a relaxed and casual thing? Open collared shirt, no tie, sport coat, odd trousers, and then a casual shoe like loafers or derbies?

I didn’t say a sports coat was considered overdressed, just that it was considered dressed up, the key difference being that former has a negative connotation to it, while the latter doesn’t.

But it’s a good point. A sports coat can be made more casual or more formal based on the other parts of the overall outfit.

 

[Viral]

I imagine the person who wears AE Strandmoks always swaps out the laces for "fun" ones and uses the word dapper regularly.

don't forget "snazzy" too............whatever that means (its very American).

 

[Nobilis Animus]

All this talk about sports jackets is not really applicable to odd jackets, in my view. There is a world of difference between a shooting jacket and an odd jacket which is otherwise cut like a suit. The latter I'd happily wear with a variety of shoes to a social outing - the former requires at least brogues, if not heavy boots, and looks ridiculous in the city.

There are examples of men in the past wearing brown, black and white, or grey jackets like this with city-toned trousers and oxfords. Even if there were not, you might imagine the two: grey tweed herringbone, white shirt with black trousers and tie, black oxfords. Quite moddish. Or brown herringbone, grey check trousers, brown wingtip oxfords.

In fact, I wonder where the place of wingtips is in this discussion? I do think something like these would work with odd jackets, though not with a sports jacket:

 

[dieworkwear]

All this talk about sports jackets is not really applicable to odd jackets, in my view. There is a world of difference between a shooting jacket and an odd jacket which is otherwise cut like a suit. The latter I'd happily wear with a variety of shoes to a social outing - the former requires at least brogues, if not heavy boots, and looks ridiculous in the city.

There are examples of men in the past wearing brown, black and white, or grey jackets like this with city-toned trousers and oxfords. Even if there were not, you might imagine the two: grey tweed herringbone, white shirt with black trousers and tie, black oxfords. Quite moddish. Or brown herringbone, grey check trousers, brown wingtip oxfords.

In fact, I wonder where the place of wingtips is in this discussion? I do think something like these would work with odd jackets, though not with a sports jacket:

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I use the term sport coat to mean odd jacket. That is, a jacket designed to be worn without matching pants.

I just can't shake the association between sport coat + oxfords as being a very Trunk Club kind of look. It just feels like this to me

 

[tim_horton]

I use the term sport coat to mean odd jacket. That is, a jacket designed to be worn without matching pants.

I just can't shake the association between sport coat + oxfords as being a very Trunk Club kind of look. It just feels like this to me

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That outfit just isn't a sports coat... It's a sports coat being worn with jeans, over a v-neck shirt. The overall look is very casual, and for that oxfords don't look very good, I agree.

Replace the t-shirt with a spread collar button down shirt; add a navy grenadine tie; replace the jeans with grey flannel trousers; and suddenly the oxfords look much better.

In general, as soon as denim jeans are in the mix, oxfords are out, IMHO. You need tailored trousers for oxfords.

 

[Nobilis Animus]

I use the term sport coat to mean odd jacket. That is, a jacket designed to be worn without matching pants.

I just can't shake the association between sport coat + oxfords as being a very Trunk Club kind of look. It just feels like this to me

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Definitely agree that we are all trying to avoid that look (probably).

 

[Mr. Six]

I just can't shake the association between sport coat + oxfords as being a very Trunk Club kind of look. It just feels like this to me

Fight me.

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• Mr. Six
• Apr 24, 2019

 

[FlyingHorker]

The drape on those trousers, god damn.

 

[rob]

The drape on those trousers, god damn.

I have no idea what that means. Please explain.

 

[FlyingHorker]

I have no idea what that means. Please explain.

How the trousers hang off his legs and hips is extremely clean.

The silhouette is completely straight.

 

[rob]

How the trousers hang off his legs and hips is extremely clean.

The silhouette is completely straight.

So, how does the concept of drape fit into that? And, the pants are too short.

 

[FlyingHorker]

So, how does the concept of drape fit into that? And, the pants are too short.

As I understand it, drape is how clothing hangs off your body. The fit looks perfect for him, as is how it tapers very gradually.

Sometimes trousers can flare out at the bottom or knees, or be too tight or baggy at the thighs etc.

I think no break can be done pretty effectively, just like in the picture, I dig how it looks.