The mafoofan and Thom Browne philosophies are not too unlike.

[voxsartoria]

Despite important meetings today, I am writing to note that I am monitoring this situation closely, and that if my vote as a Senior Member is needed to break any tie, I will weigh in.

Godspeed to the interlocutors...for each of you, there are hundreds of us.


- B

 

[bluemagic]

Originally Posted by voxsartoria

Despite important meetings today, I am writing to note that I am monitoring this situation closely, and that if my vote as a Senior Member is needed to break any tie, I will weigh in.

Godspeed to the interlocutors...for each of you, there are hundreds of us.


- B

Does grimslade think he should weigh in here?

EDIT: It is not the awaited Sixth Page.

 

[Fuuma]

Originally Posted by voxsartoria

Despite important meetings today, I am writing to note that I am monitoring this situation closely, and that if my vote as a Senior Member is needed to break any tie, I will weigh in.

Godspeed to the interlocutors...for each of you, there are hundreds of us.


- B

Hmm, go away if you won't contribute. This is a very serious discussion that will determine the fate of mankind.

 

[itsstillmatt]

Originally Posted by bluemagic

Does grimslade think he should weigh in here?

EDIT: It is not the awaited Sixth Page.
Grimslade is a big fan of modernity.

 

[voxsartoria]

Originally Posted by bluemagic

Does grimslade think he should weigh in here?


Depends...what does Manton think?


- B

 

[voxsartoria]

Originally Posted by Fuuma

Hmm, go away if you won't contribute. This is a very serious discussion that will determine the fate of mankind.

You mean, ashes or food for worms?


- B

 

[Fuuma]

Originally Posted by voxsartoria

You mean, ashes or food for worms?


- B

It was all prophetized by Kabbazamus, read between the lines.

 

[bluemagic]

To go back on topic, it's interesting how SoCal2NYC wears Thom Browne as if it were any other fashion-wear like Jil Sander or Raf Simons. Since my first exposure to Browne was in the SW&D WAYWT thread, it took me until yesterday to finally shrug that impression of Browne off and "get it." The Florence display helped, too.

I'm reminded of comments I've sometimes read on here about Armani; how one's whole outfit must be Armani if you are wearing any, since it doesn't integrate well with other designers. I've never exactly understood this logic, can anyone explain it to me?

 

[why]

Bluemagic has a habit of extrapolating his boring social and mathematics lectures of the day into a world that doesn't give a flying **** about them.

I bet he could write some mean psychobabble.

 

[Fuuma]

Originally Posted by why

Bluemagic has a habit of extrapolating his boring social and mathematics lectures of the day into a world that doesn't give a flying **** about them.

I bet he could write some mean psychobabble.

Why not offer your point of view instead....

 

[gomestar]

Originally Posted by bluemagic

I'm reminded of comments I've sometimes read on here about Armani; how one's whole outfit must be Armani if you are wearing any, since it doesn't integrate well with other designers. I've never exactly understood this logic, can anyone explain it to me?

I've never really understood the point of this either.

I do think TB is more versatile than some might credit it for, though you have to deviate from his ideal look. I rarely wear a TB suit, shirt, and tie. I don't expose my ankles, rather I sometimes wear some sweet purple socks with a grey suit. Or I've worn only a TB suit jacket with a pair of slim cut jeans and an oxford. What's the point of only being able to wear one suit with a certain shirt and tie?

 

[Brian SD]

God damn, these threads move fast. I'm going to start adding (Thom Browne) onto all my future threads so I can get lots of replies.

 

[dopey]

Originally Posted by Fuuma

This is simply untrue; modernism (taken in the architectural sense in that discussion) isn't about having no innovation. Many designers I enjoy offer very little variation or even forego seasonality entirely, instead concentrating on the same core theme every season (or offering) and adding some incremental innovations as they progress. Say a guy develops a technique for bonding leather and paper and uses that material to make jackets for his new collection. You guys have a very static view of modernism and an ephemeral one of fashion so when the two meet you get a systemic error. The problem isn’t with fashion design or modernism but with your own limited understanding of both. Clothing design is part of an answer to the problems and specificities of modern living; there is nothing surprising about it changing to adapt to the times.
You are correct, but I am disappointed that you assumeed the most limiting and hyperbolic version of what I wrote is what I meant. Thom Browne is not just perfecting and honing his ideas, or even improving them. If he were, you would be correct and I would agree that Thom Browne is some sort of high concept, principled design intelligence. My point is that his designs are not about the continual and evolving expression of an idea - they are about 1. Thom Browne, Thom Browne the clothes seller and Thom Browne the look and 2. coming up with new stuff to sell each season.

 

[bluemagic]

Originally Posted by dopey

You are correct, but I am disappointed that you assumeed the most limiting and hyperbolic version of what I wrote is what I meant.

Thom Browne is not just perfecting and honing his ideas, or even improving them. If he were, you would be correct and I would agree that Thom Browne is some sort of high concept, principled design intelligence.

My point is that his designs are not about the continual and evolving expression of an idea - they are about 1. Thom Browne, Thom Browne the clothes seller and Thom Browne the look and 2. coming up with new stuff to sell each season.

Why not say that the free market is the quintessentially modernist way of driving progress?

 

[voxsartoria]

Originally Posted by Fuuma

Why not offer your point of view instead....

It's like asking why to choose between squats and deadlifts, or boys and girls.


- B